Talk:University Of Erlangen–Nuremberg
I am leaving a note about the research of this redirect beacuse it isn't refenced in the English WP. I was cleaning up redlinks from Template:CACTVSGIF which led here but I could not find reference to this university anywhere exect that the town macthed Friedrich-Alexander-University, Erlangen-Nuremberg. That article did not reference this name, but swicthing to the german WP I noted the web address http://www.uni-erlangen.de listed there matched the email at the contact link on the template for permission to put on CD. Therefore I am mostly confident they are the same.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 19:43, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- Now article grew up so changing the class type to class C
Chu86happychu 22:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Self-made public portrait of the "brand" FAU and press reactions...
- responding to: "Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg) better known as FAU"
- FAU = Florida Atlantic Univresity.
- In Germany, especially in Bavaria and even more around Erlangen and Nuremberg, no one ever says "the FAU". It is called "Uni Erlangen" and only that. The "brand" FAU was introduced by chancelor Grüske to promote the public profile and is not an established "nickname" or commonly known name used for this university, if used at all... Maybe a staff member of the admin. office put this in here, but this annotation is not accurate nor informative.
- The name "FAU" was only introduced along with the new logo showing this three letters, forming this kind of new "label". Among the student and staff community there was big discussion about this topic, which can be verified using google. I won't provide any links. I just wanted to let you know that this produces a biased and distorted image of the university itself.
14:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.188.6.21 (talk)
The above comment refers to "street talk" apparently available to people living in the region of this university. According to their website, their official name is "Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg", a German name also on the English website: https://www.fau.eu
Apparently, there is neither an "Uni Erlangen" not "FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg" but only the full name. Are there any other official documents indicating otherwise? Should a respective change request follow?
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- Requested Addition: In the Times Higher Education Impact Ranking 2023, FAU ranks 1st worldwide in the SDG 9 – industry, innovation and infrastructure.
- Reason: The University of Erlangen-Nuremberg has a long-standing tradition of applied research and a strong focus on translational research and industrial innovation. This is reflected also in the 2023 THE Ranking in which reports FAU on rank 1 of the SDG9. Therefore I propose to add the text in academic rankings. A first rank in the Times Higher Education ranking is a significant achievement and demonstrates success certified by an independent and objective source.
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- Includes up to date university seal, logo, and university facts and figures in the opening paragraphs (changes only relate to Text Box and opening section, with future updates to follow on remaining sections which have become unwieldy and inconsistent over many years and need to be up dated and fact checked)
- Uses Wikipedia's recommended inverted triangle approach
- Adds new, more current citations
- Addresses David Eppstein's concerns about a single sentence considered to be promotional
- Is intended as a first/next step in a work in progress
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University of Erlangen–Nuremberg (German: Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg, FAU) is a public research university in the cities of Erlangen and Nuremberg in Bavaria, Germany. Founded in 1743 by Friedrich, Margrave of Brandenburg-Bayreuth, today FAU has campuses in Erlangen, Nuremberg (since 1961) and Fürth (since 2004). The university's broad spectrum is reflected across its five faculties: Humanities, Social Sciences, and Theology; Business, Economics, and Law; Medicine; Sciences; and Engineering. FAU is one of the largest universities in Bavaria with around 40,000 students, offering 272 courses, including 82 bachelor courses, 98 master courses and 92 courses with state examinations, such as teaching, law or medicine (as of 2023). University of Erlangen-Nuremberg regularly features in global and European university rankings, especially for innovation. The university's researchers include 4 Nobel laureates, 8 Alexander von Humboldt professors, 8 Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Prize holders, and 53 European Research Council grantees. FAU is also a member of The German Research Foundation (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft or DFG). History The university was founded in 1742, in Bayreuth by Frederick, Margrave of Brandenburg-Bayreuth, and moved to Erlangen in 1743. Christian Frederick Charles Alexander, Margrave of Brandenburg-Ansbach (one of the two namesakes of the institution) provided significant support to the early university. From the beginning, the university was a Protestant institution, but over time it slowly secularized. During the Nazi era, the university was one of the first that had a majority of Nazi supporters in the student council. In 1961, the business college in Nuremberg was merged with the university in Erlangen, so now the combined institution has a physical presence in the two cities. An engineering school was inaugurated in 1966. In 1972, the school of education (normal school) in Nuremberg became part of the university. TimelineBelow is a short timeline of FAU from its inception to its present form:
CampusesA major part of FAU’s campuses is in the city of Erlangen, the minor part in the neighboring city of Nuremberg. Several minor facilities are located in Hof, Fürth, Bamberg, Pleinfeld or Ingolstadt. In sum, there are several hundred FAU properties in the Nuremberg metropolitan area. Erlangen   In Erlangen, the University has two main sites: one in the city centre (North site) and the other in city's south (South site). To the east of the city is the so-called “Röthelheim Campus” with minor engineering and medical facilities. In addition, the FAU currently has a large number of larger and smaller properties spread over the entire Erlangen city area. Besides the Erlangen Schloss, the university’s Schlossgarten in the city centre is a main sight in Erlangen and very popular among students especially during summer term. The university’s administration (in the Erlangen Schloss), the Faculty of Humanities, Social Sciences and Theology and the Department of Law (as part of the Faculty of Law and Economics) are located at the North Site (both at Bismarckstraße/Schillerstraße) as well as the Faculty of Medicine and the University Hospital. Also in the city centre is the University Library Erlangen-Nürnberg. The Erlangen University Hospital is one of the biggest university hospitals in Germany.   The Faculty of Science (Erwin-Rommel-Straße/Staudtstraße) and the Faculty of Engineering form the FAU’s South site. Library
The University Library Erlangen-Nürnberg is the library system of the Friedrich Alexander University and is a regional library for the region of Middle Franconia. As an academic universal library, it offers its users a wide range of specialist literature from all faculties and a variety of services. With approximately 5.4 million volumes, it is Bavaria's largest library outside the state capital Munich. Large parts of the media stock are also accessible in interregional lending. The University Library is a member of the Bavarian Library Network (Bibliotheksverbund Bayern). NurembergThe Department of Economics (as part of the Faculty of Law and Economics) and the Department of Education (as part of the Faculty of Humanities) are in Nuremberg. The Department of Economics is located northeast of the historic Old Town (Lange Gasse/Maxtormauer). The Department of Education (“Campus Regensburger Straße”) is in the southeast of the city near the Dutzendteich and the former Nazi party rally grounds of Nuremberg. FAU Busan campusFAU is the first German university to establish a branch campus in Busan in the Republic of Korea. In November 2009, its campus project received approval from the Korean Ministry of Education, Science and Technology. The FAU Busan Branch Campus offers a Graduate School with a master's degree program in Chemical and Bioengineering and a research center. In 2014, the university announced its intention of working toward making the Busan-Jinhae Free Economic Zone an educational hub. To this end, FAU Busan works internationally with various companies and universities. FacultiesIn February 2007, the senate of the university decided upon a restructuring into five faculties. Since October 2007, the FAU consists of:
The following faculties were part of the university (sorted in the order in which they were founded):
Faculty of EngineeringInceptionIn 1962, after lengthy debate, the Bavarian parliament decided to establish a Faculty of Engineering in Erlangen. Then, the University of Erlangen thus won out against the city of Nuremberg, which, for decades, had been demanding the establishment of a college of engineering in Nuremberg. Since the expansive areas of building land required for this project were not available in the center of Erlangen, the foundations for a new university campus were laid in the south east of the town in 1964. The formal establishment of the Faculty of Engineering, then the seventh faculty at the university, took place in 1966. What was unique at the time was that the various engineering departments were subsumed, as a faculty, into the main university rather than constituting an independent university. Present statusThe Faculty of Engineering at FAU is a young educational and research institution. Since its foundation in 1966. The Faculty has five departments:
The Faculty has close connections both with other natural sciences and with traditional subjects at the university. The Faculty of Engineering currently concentrates on the following research fields:
ResearchMajor research areasFAU claims leadership in a number of research topics. The current eight such major research areas are:
Excellence initiativeThe Excellence Initiative by the German federal and state governments to promote science and research at German universities aims to promote cutting-edge research and to strengthen the higher education and research in Germany to improve its international competitiveness and to make top performers in academia and science visible. As part of this initiative, FAU was awarded the contract for the Erlangen Graduate School in Advanced Optical Technologies (SAOT), which received 1.9 million euros of annual funding for the next five years. The Cluster of Excellence 'Engineering of Advanced Materials and Processes' (EAM) was also established at FAU as part of the initiative and has been approved in the second round. EAM is funded with 40 million euros. Cluster of Excellence 'Engineering of Advanced MaterialsThe Cluster of Excellence 'Engineering of Advanced Materials – Hierarchical Structure Formation for Functional Devices' (EAM) is the only interdisciplinary research collaboration of its type in Germany to focus on the investigation of functional materials and their processing at all length scales. The main research focus is on the fundamental and applied aspects of designing and creating novel high-performance materials. It is part of the Excellence Initiative of the German Research Foundation. Erlangen Graduate School in Advanced Optical TechnologiesThe Erlangen Graduate School in Advanced Optical Technologies (SAOT) was founded in 2006. SAOT's scientific focus lies on optics and optical technology, two fields which are considered key technologies of the 21st century. SAOT is currently funded with seven million euros. National High Performance Computing Centerin 2020 the FAU joined the National High-Performance Computing (NHR) alliance in Germany. This program is designed to provide researchers with access to state-of-the-art computing resources exceeding the limits of local HPC resources, including supercomputers. By joining the NHR program, the FAU has expanded its computing infrastructure, enabling its researchers to conduct more advanced simulations and analyses in various fields of study. Research institutionsCentral institutionsCentral institutions
Interdisciplinary centersInterdisciplinary centers
Research centers and centers of excellenceResearch centers & centers of excellence
PartnershipsFriedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg (FAU) is the first German university to establish a branch campus in Busan in the Republic of Korea. FAU has contacts with approximately 500 universities all over the world, including many of the world's top universities like the University of Cambridge, Duke University, UCL, Imperial College London and many more. Academic ranking
Global academic rankings of FAU can be seen in the table on the right. Measured by the number of top managers in the German economy, FAU ranked 25th in 2019. In 2017, ARWU ranked FAU 4th in Germany in Engineering/Technology and Computer Sciences, 6th in Germany in Clinical Medicine and Pharmacy and 7th in Germany in Natural Sciences and Mathematics. QS World University Rankings 2018 ranked FAU as the academic institution that has produced the most widely cited publications in Germany (global 21st). 2017, Reuters ranked FAU as the 50th most innovative university globally (2nd Germany, 6th in Europe). In the Reuters ranking report published in 2019, FAU has been rated as the most innovative university in Germany and as the 2nd in Europe. In Academic Ranking of World Universities for year 2014, FAU ranked second among German universities in Engineering/Technology and Computer Sciences group for all four ranking parameters TOP, FUN, HiCi and PUB. AwardsAlexander von Humboldt ProfessorshipsIn 2010, the newly announced professor of physics and co-director of the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Light, Prof. Vahid Sandoghdar was awarded an Alexander von Humboldt Professorship, Germany's highest-endowed international research award, endowed with €3.5 million. In the year 2011, the second in a row, FAU communications engineer and researcher Prof. Dr.-Ing Robert Schober (born 1971) was awarded an Alexander von Humboldt Professorship, entailed with €3.5 million, for an algorithm developed by him which is found in many modern phones today. In 2013, Prof. Oskar Painter received an Alexander von Humboldt Professorship as well. Prof. Painter is another new co-director of the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Light. German Excellence InitiativeThe University of Erlangen-Nürnberg was successful within the German Universities Excellence Initiative in competing for a "cluster of excellence" and a graduate school. The Cluster of Excellence 'Engineering of Advanced Materials' (EAM)" focuses on interdisciplinary developing new materials, joining engineering and natural sciences. The Erlangen Graduate School in Advanced Optical Technologies emphasizes a strong focus in optical and photonics technology in the natural sciences, in engineering and the medical sciences and aims for a concise doctoral education. It is supplemented with a Master's degree program in the same topics. After an in-depth evaluation, both programs were extended for the third phase of the German Excellence Initiative in 2012 until 2017. They contribute significantly to the research funding of the University, including five new research buildings, permanent new technical facilities and research and teaching staff. They also aim to increase the international perception of the contributing fields of research in Erlangen. Notable alumni and professors
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Points of interest
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External links Wikimedia Commons has media related to Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg.
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To me, the new text still seems quite promotional. Given that after my previous response, in which I gave a specific example of a promotionally-worded sentence to illustrate how promotional the whole text was, you reacted merely by removing that one sentence, I am not convinced that providing additional specific examples is likely to lead to a constructive dialogue. The whole thing is written with promotional intent. We cannot trust in any of it to be an accurate, complete, and neutral assessment of the university's activities. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: I came here to post a wee message about the IPv6 editor who posted unsourced promotional content. I've reverted. Looking at the block above, it might be the same editor. The block is promotional for some reason. A couple of sections seems to be quite puffed up. There is simply no need for a long established and prestigious university like this to have that type of content. Its not deserving of it at all. Why even do it? scope_creep 17:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Not done.- I have closed this edit request as malformed, and therefore non-actionable. Replies have been given. Make new requests one at a time. You may make minor changes to spelling, grammar, dates, names, etc. You may revert obvious vandalism, and you can add citations to reliable sources that are independent of the subject. But for anything more substantive, you need to make an edit request. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:22, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the constructive feedback. Ronna2023 (talk) 08:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: I came here to post a wee message about the IPv6 editor who posted unsourced promotional content. I've reverted. Looking at the block above, it might be the same editor. The block is promotional for some reason. A couple of sections seems to be quite puffed up. There is simply no need for a long established and prestigious university like this to have that type of content. Its not deserving of it at all. Why even do it? scope_creep 17:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (1)
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- What I think should be changed:
The University Seal in the information box
- Why it should be changed:
The version published was replaced in 2022. The new version is available on the Wikipedia Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/key/File:Friedrich_Alexander_University_of_Erlangen-Nuremberg_Seal_2022.png
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
https://www.doc.zuv.fau.de//M/Styleguide/FAU_Styleguide-Essentials_v26_2022-07-14.pdf
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
Done. This would qualify as a non-substantive change, so you could have done it yourself. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:28, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I am naturally cautions to make any changes given the potential for backlash, account blocking, and conflicting views, but will begin trying to follow your recommendation. Ronna2023 (talk) 10:03, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (2)
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- What I think should be changed:
The University Logo in the information box
- Why it should be changed:
The version published was replaced in 2022. The new version is available on the Wikipedia Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/key/File:Friedrich-Alexander-Universit%C3%A4t_Erlangen-N%C3%BCrnberg_Logo_07.2022.svg
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
https://www.doc.zuv.fau.de//M/Styleguide/FAU_Styleguide-Essentials_v26_2022-07-14.pdf
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- Done. This is a non-substantive change that would be OK for you to do yourself. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I am naturally cautions to make any changes given the potential for backlash, account blocking, and conflicting views, but will begin trying to follow your recommendation. Ronna2023 (talk) 10:04, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (3)
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- What I think should be changed:
Budget / Information Box
| budget = € 543.1 million
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| budget = 721,6 Mio. € (2021)
Third-party Funds: 243,19 Mio. €
- Why it should be changed:
The published figures are not current or correct and the cited references are out of date
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
url=https://www.stmfh.bayern.de/haushalt/2023/haushaltsplan/Epl15.pdf url=https://www.fau.eu/fau/welcome-to-fau/facts-and-figures//#collapse_6l/
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:45, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Ronna2023 (talk) 10:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Freistaat Bayern Haushaltsplan 2015/2016, Einzelplan 15" (PDF) (in German). Bayerischer Landtag. p. 278. Retrieved 20 June 2017. Public funding: € 365.5 million
- ^ "Entwicklung der Drittmitteleinnahmen der FAU Erlangen – Nürnberg nach Geldgebern 2012 bis 2016" (PDF). Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg (in German). Retrieved 20 June 2017. Third party funding: € 177.6 million
- ^ Freistaat Bayern. "Einzelplan 15 - Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg, Ist-Grundfinanzierung 2021 i.H.v. 495,7 Mio. €" (PDF). Retrieved 2023-05-02.
- ^ Third-party funding according to donors in millions of euros
- Done. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:35, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (4)
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- What I think should be changed:
| president = Joachim Hornegger
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| president = Joachim Hornegger
- Why it should be changed:
The reference is changed from a general page in German on the University's website to a specific one in English.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
fa123was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ "The President of FAU". University of Erlangen-Nuremberg. Retrieved 16 May 2023.
- Done. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:47, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Ronna2023 (talk) 10:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (5)
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- What I think should be changed:
| vice-president =
- Bärbel Kopp
(Vice President for Education) - Günter Leugering
(Vice President for Research) - Kathrin M. Möslein
(Vice President for Outreach) - Friedrich Paulsen
(Vice President for People)
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Recommend deletion from information box
- Why it should be changed:
This list would have to be extended to be complete, making it too long for the information box. It is no longer current and correct.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Die Leitung der FAU". University of Erlangen-Nuremberg. Retrieved 17 August 2019.
- Done. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:48, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (6)
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- What I think should be changed:
| academic_staff = 4,036 | administrative_staff = 2,320
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| academic_staff = 629 (2022) | total_staff = 6,570 (2022)
- Why it should be changed:
Out of date information and non-functioning link.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
url=https://www.fau.eu/fau/welcome-to-fau/facts-and-figures/
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "FAU staff". University of Erlangen-Nuremberg. Retrieved 14 August 2019. University hospital not included.
- ^ FAU. "Facts and Figures". Retrieved 2023-05-02.
- Done. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:53, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (7)
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- What I think should be changed:
| students = 38,771 TO | students = 39,658 (WS 2022/23)
- Why it should be changed:
Most current figure and specific citation in English instead of general citation in German
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Studierendenzahlen im Wintersemester 2018/2019 (Kopfzahlen)". University of Erlangen-Nuremberg (in German). Retrieved 14 August 2019.
- ^ University Webseite
- Done. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:54, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (8)
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- What I think should be changed:
| affiliations = Domestic:
1. Bavarian State Ministry for Science, Research and Art
2. DFG
3. Excellence Universities
International:
1. SEFI
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affiliations = German-French Universities (DFH-UFA), EELISA
- Why it should be changed:
According to the University Marketing Department, the published list is no longer current and should be replaced by the new list.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
https://www.dfh-ufa.org/en/ https://eelisa.eu/partners/
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done, partially. We don't use external links in Wikipedia articles. I changed them to Wikilinks. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:59, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. EELISA doesn't appear to have a Wikipedia page, either on the English or German page. What alternative do you suggest to its own website to explain what it is, and to show that it is a bone fide association? This link was used on the German Wikipedia page for the organization: https://eelisa.eu/partners/ Ronna2023 (talk) 10:13, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- The red link is fine. If an article gets created on EELISA, then the link will turn blue. Anyone searching for the term will quickly see that it's a bona-fide organization. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. EELISA doesn't appear to have a Wikipedia page, either on the English or German page. What alternative do you suggest to its own website to explain what it is, and to show that it is a bone fide association? This link was used on the German Wikipedia page for the organization: https://eelisa.eu/partners/ Ronna2023 (talk) 10:13, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (9)
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- What I think should be changed:
University of Erlangen–Nuremberg (German: Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg, FAU) is a public research university in the cities of Erlangen and Nuremberg in Bavaria, Germany. The name Friedrich–Alexander comes from the university's first founder Friedrich, Margrave of Brandenburg-Bayreuth, and its benefactor Alexander, Margrave of Brandenburg-Ansbach.
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Founded in 1743 by Friedrich, Margrave of Brandenburg-Bayreuth, today FAU has campuses in Erlangen, Nuremberg (since 1961) and Fürth (since 2004). The university's fields of research and study are reflected across its five faculties: Humanities, Social Sciences, and Theology; Business, Economics, and Law; Medicine; Sciences; and Engineering.
- Why it should be changed:
- The University wishes to adopt the inverted pyramid approach as recommended by Wikipedia guidelines - https://en.wikipedia.org/key/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles - and to focus up front on what it interprets as relevant information to provide a brief introductory overview to readers with a bone fide interest in this modern research university (so an appropriate level of detail can be achieved further into the article on topics like its history):
- While no doubt of some interest to some readers, of higher priority in this opening section is what the university offers its students, researchers, employees, community, and collaboration partners today, rather than 200+ years ago.
- To provide additional, high-calibre, relevant citations, where possible in English
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
fau_hiswas invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ "History and remembrance of FAU". University Website. 17 May 2023.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ Wachter, Clemens (7 December 2021). "Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg". Historisches Lexikon Bayerns. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "FAU Erlangen-Nuremberg". mygermanuniversity.com. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- ^ "FAU Faculties". FAU.eu. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- Not done. The proposal references an essay, not a guideline, and the proposed change is the opposite of the inverted pyramid. The most important information is the name of the institution, followed by what it is, and its location. The proposed change comes across as promotional. I agree that the etymology doesn't need to be there. The second paragraph of the lead goes into too much detail for an overview and could be repurposed to list fields of study. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I do not understand your terms essay and guideline in this context. Again to point out that much of the information in the introductory section as it stands is not factually correct, contradicts cited updated figures in the now edited information box, and that some of these old supporting citations no longer work/have been replaced with those given in the information box. I assume this comment also relates to the further edit recommendations I made on 22 May. Can the factually incorrect information please at least be removed? Ronna2023 (talk) 10:37, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (10)
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- What I think should be changed:
FAU is the second largest state university in the state of Bavaria. It has 5 faculties, 24 departments/schools, 25 clinical departments, 21 autonomous departments, 579 professors, 3,457 members of research staff and roughly 14,300 employees.
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FAU is a state university in the Nuremberg Metropolian Region of southern Germany. It has 39,658 students and offers 272 courses, including 82 bachelor courses, 98 master courses and 92 courses with state examinations, such as teaching, law or medicine (as of 2023).
- Why it should be changed:
- The University wishes to adopt the inverted pyramid approach as recommended by Wikipedia guidelines - https://en.wikipedia.org/key/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles - and to focus up front on what it interprets as relevant information to provide a brief introductory overview to readers with a bone fide interest in this modern research university
- While no doubt of some interest to some readers, of higher priority in this opening section is what the university offers its students, researchers, employees, community, and collaboration partners today.
- FAU is not the second largest state university in the state of Bavaria. Is size (here undefined) in Bavaria relevant to international (English-language) readers?
- To provide additional, high-calibre, relevant citations, where possible in English
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Human ressources FAU staff". Retrieved 14 August 2019.
- ^ "FAU facts and figures". University Website. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (11)
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- What I think should be changed:
In winter semester 2018/19 around 38,771 students (including 5,096 foreign students) enrolled in the university in 265 fields of study, with about 2/3 studying at the Erlangen campus and the remaining 1/3 at the Nuremberg campus. These statistics put FAU in the list of top 10 largest universities in Germany. In 2018, 7,390 students graduated from the university and 840 doctorates and 55 post-doctoral theses were registered. Moreover, FAU received 201 million Euro (2018) external funding in the same year, making it one of the strongest third-party funded universities in Germany.
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University of Erlangen-Nuremberg regularly features in global and European university rankings, especially for innovation. The university's researchers include 4 Nobel laureates, 8 Alexander von Humboldt professors, 8 Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Prize holders, and 53 European Research Council grantees.
- Why it should be changed:
- The University wishes to adopt the inverted pyramid approach as recommended by Wikipedia guidelines - https://en.wikipedia.org/key/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles - and to focus up front on what it interprets as relevant information to provide a brief introductory overview to readers with a bone fide interest in this modern research university
- While no doubt of some interest to some readers, of higher priority in this opening section is what the university offers its students, researchers, employees, community, and collaboration partners today.
- Many of the statistics given are no longer accurate, and have been or are being corrected elsewhere.
- To provide additional, high-calibre, relevant citations, where possible in English
- The intention is to update campus/locations, central institutions , research and more in a separate, up-to-date and factually correct sections further in the article
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "FAU Key figures and rankings". fau.de. Retrieved 14 August 2019.
- ^ "Materials Science and Engineering best-performing subject at FAU in the international top 100". FAU.eu. 27 March 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- ^ "QS World University Rankings 2023". topuniversities.com. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- ^ "University of Erlangen-Nuremberg". Times Higher Education. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- ^ "FAU performs well in THE subject rankings". FAU.eu. 31 October 2022. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- ^ "FAU in the top 100 worldwide in 4 subjects". fau.eu. 21 July 2022.
{{cite web}}:|archive-date=requires|archive-url=(help)CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "University of Erlangen-Nuremberg". shanghairanking.com. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "Europe's most innovative universities in 2019". weforum.org. May 2019. Retrieved 17 May 2022.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "FAU among World's Most Innovative Universities". FAU.eu. 25 October 2019. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "FAU Nobel Prize Winners". FAU.eu. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "Alexander von Humboldt Professorship at FAU". FAU.eu. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- ^ "Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Prize at FAU". FAU.eu. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
- ^ "ERC grants at FAU". FAU.eu. 17 May 2023. Retrieved 17 May 2023.
Request edit on 22 May 2023 (12)
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- What I think should be changed:
FAU is also a member of DFG (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft) and the Top Industrial Managers for Europe network.
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FAU is also a member of The German Research Foundation (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft or DFG).
- Why it should be changed:
FAU is no longer a member of Top Industrial Managers for Europe Network, and in fact this organization has changed its name.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
References
Reply 1-JUL-2023
Edit request partially implemented
- The text which was being asked to be removed has been removed.
- The replacement text which was being asked to be added was not added.
- The claim involving the Top Industrial Managers for Europe Network was omitted as requested.
Regards, Spintendo 23:33, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Notes
- ^ This consisted of claims referenced only by the university and whose numbers ostensibly change from year to year (i.e., enrollment, employees, classes offered, etc) which is all information best placed on the webpages of the university itself.
Maintenance template and data sources
ATM, we have two maintenance issues on the article site, both from 2017 and both without any background information on the talk page.
Do we have any remaining advertisment-like content live? (my guess would be no, since there is a quite strict debate on every new edit)
Are there any verifications/citations missing?
The latter was my initial interest - i started checking some archive-links and found live pages serving the requested information, but since there are no citations needed according to the talk page, i felt a bit lost. I don't find any reasons for keeping the maintenance banner. I'm unsure if archive.org-sources are preferred, are they? (i'd prefer at least updated ones).
Last not least: we do have https://www.wikidata.org/key/Q40025 and are there any options to use data from there? Korrupt (talk) 18:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Like Wikipedia, anyone can upload to Wikidata, so it is not considered a reliable source (WP:NOTSOURCE)
- I find these two tags justified. Comparing this article with other university articles, it seems adlike because it reads like a brochure for the university, going into detail unnecessarily about all the programs it offers as well as superlatives. I will restore both tags; the CN tag on account of several questionably sourced paragraphs. Good day—RetroCosmos 13:33, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- While asking for more external sources seems quite legitimate to me, the other issue should have at least some examples. To "find something justified" is, well, an opinion, to provide examples for "unnecessary detail" or "superlatives" would be actually helpful. As far as i can tell, the (rarely used) superlatives do precisely describe the position of the university in its larger context. Browsing other university entries, i find totally comparable detail. Without examples, i don't see that "it seems adlike" or "i find..." are the criteria to rely on, let alone improving it. Korrupt (talk) 16:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'll give you a few examples from a skim of the article.
- History lacks sourcing
- Campuses lacks sourcing
- That the Erlagen University Hospital is one of the biggest uni hospitals in Germany is an example of a superlative, and is unsourced
- That the library system offers a "wide range of specialist literature" is unsourced and also a buzzword
- "Educational hub" in re Busan campus a buzzword
- Not necessary to list out every department in a faculty.
- In conjunction together the above points paint a picture of an advertisement.
- Frankly I am hesitant to improve it because it would almost certainly mean deleting large parts of the article. Good day—RetroCosmos 03:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- @RetroCosmos: That doesn't strike me as a valid reason to avoid improving an article. If unsubstantiated fluff and cruft has accumulated, it is best to remove it. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll give you a few examples from a skim of the article.
- While asking for more external sources seems quite legitimate to me, the other issue should have at least some examples. To "find something justified" is, well, an opinion, to provide examples for "unnecessary detail" or "superlatives" would be actually helpful. As far as i can tell, the (rarely used) superlatives do precisely describe the position of the university in its larger context. Browsing other university entries, i find totally comparable detail. Without examples, i don't see that "it seems adlike" or "i find..." are the criteria to rely on, let alone improving it. Korrupt (talk) 16:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)