• 21 Aug, 2019

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While the British have an image for their outfits in that era, The Americans don't. can we change that so we can see what the Americans looked like in the war of 1812?

(I'm fine if someone responds with yes or no.) Thomasthetankenginefan123 (talk) 15:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense

About the revert:

I understand why it was reverted (I'd be guessing likely due to the "Both sides claim victory" and "Native American defeat" parts), but I don't exactly know why everything was removed?

Even though I obviously shouldn't have added some of the information I did decide to add, other things I added such as other casualties surely shouldn't have been removed? Setergh (talk) 09:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The changes to the result parameter are contrary to WP:RESULT. Per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, the infobox is not a place for detail. It is there to summarise key facts from the article. The article should remain complete without the infobox. The casualty section is a mess and quite contrary to the guidance. Your edits there only take things from bad to worse. We should be writing such things into the article. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 10:45, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So are you blaming me or the infobox itself?

"The changes to the result parameter are contrary to WP:RESULT."

I think I clearly acknowledged that I made a mistake here, don't particularly get the point of repeating it to me.

"The casualty section is a mess and quite contrary to the guidance.Your edits there only take things from bad to worse."

How do I worsen the casualty section by adding more info to it? Is there a problem in acknowledging the fact that there isn't only one source giving one specific casualty number? I don't get this point in the slightest. Setergh (talk) 11:46, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]