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User Talk:Primefac

Just curious, how did you recreate the RichardHornsby sockpuppet investigation previously known as Tsetstransport. Xtools edit count does not show it as a deleted edit. 182.239.240.50 (talk) 00:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No idea what you mean, I haven't deleted or restored any SPI pages in years. Primefac (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think what he meant was [1] where you created a page on a page that has already been created without deleting it first. 60.227.138.38 (talk) 05:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
xtools doesn't always show all types of deletions, nor do log entries. Primefac (talk) 11:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What type of deletion is this? How do I do this on my own MediaWiki wiki. Is the log entry of the deletion only visible to administrators. 60.227.138.38 (talk) 19:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Oversight. Primefac (talk) 09:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you need to oversight it. Is it because the admin who deleted the page added something that needs to be oversighted in the reason. 182.239.240.50 (talk) 00:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Content on the page met the oversight criteria. Primefac (talk) 10:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bot

Hi Primefac, HBC AIV Helperbot 14 has been down for the past 5 hours, and Mdann52 is also offline right now. I'm thinking of running my bot as a backup until HBC AIV Helperbot 14 is back up. Do I need to submit a new BRFA for this, or can I just use the bot since the task is already approved? I'll be using the same bot script. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You would need to run a new BRFA. Is a 5-hour down time really that bad? If so, it might be worth having more than one person with access to the bot for redundancy purposes. Primefac (talk) 11:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A 5-hour downtime isn't too bad, but this bot assists with AIV and UAA pages, and folks need to manually remove actioned reports. I thought I could help until Mdann52 restarts the bot. Let's wait a few more hours for Mdann52 to come online. – DreamRimmer (talk) 12:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm very lazy

Are you aware of any bots that could help with merging duplicate references? I'm not too sure if AWB can do this. Panini! 🥪 12:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AWB will merge duplicate references if they are identical. I do not recall any bots that do this task, though. Primefac (talk) 14:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha, thanks! Panini! 🥪 12:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

The (information removed) Barnstar
Thank you for your continuing work in areas most editors never see. — xaosflux 12:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Always happy to help. Primefac (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Thierry Rayer

I just made changes to the article: Draft:Thierry Rayer - Wikipedia

here are my different points to highlight in relation to my article

  1. Forbes France : Forbes is an internationally recognized publication specializing in economic and financial topics. His reputation in the field of business and entrepreneurship is well established. In France, Forbes follows rigorous editorial guidelines ; Forbes France is a local franchise of Forbes International, whose journalistic standards and publishing methodologies are recognized worldwide.
  2. Entreprendre.fr  : This site is dedicated to entrepreneurship and publishes economic analyses, portraits of entrepreneurs, and market studies. The site is followed by a large number of professionals and business leaders.Entreprendre.fr is a specialized and recognized platform in its field, targeting a qualified audience.
  3. Arab News : Founded in 1975, Arab News is one of the leading English-language newspapers in the Middle East region, recognized for its coverage of international, economic, and political news. o Its status as a publication with a large international readership and its importance in regional analyzes reinforces its reliability.
  4. Khaleej Times : Khaleej Times is one of the oldest English-language newspapers in the UAE, with a long history of covering economic, social and political affairs from the Gulf and beyond. o This regional publication's reputation, journalistic experience and influence make it a credible source for information regarding the Gulf and surrounding regions.
  5. UNESCO : UNESCO is an officially recognized international organization and part of the United Nations. UNESCO publications are based on rigorous research and scientific methodologies. UNESCO is a reference institution for educational, cultural and scientific issues, widely cited in academic publications.
  6. Ministères français (Finances, Europe et Affaires étrangères) : Ministries are official government sources. Information from these institutions is based on official data and is often cited as undisputed references. Data or reports from French ministries are used by many international and academic institutions as first-rate sources.
  7. Chambre de Commerce France-UAE : The France-UAE CCI is a major institutional player in commercial relations between France and the Emirates. Its reports and publications are based on reliable statistics and validated economic analyses. Chambers of Commerce, as official economic actors, produce information used by businesses and governments.
  8. Le Louvre (Paris) : The Louvre Museum in Paris is one of the most prestigious and influential museums in the world. It houses thousands of renowned works of art, and its publications, catalogs and reports are recognized for their scientific rigor. The Louvre's research and publications are often carried out in collaboration with international experts and academicians, which guarantees exceptional quality of the information and analyzes disseminated. • Additionally, the Louvre is a governmental cultural institution in France, which further strengthens its legitimacy.
  9. Le Louvre Abu Dhabi : Louvre Abu Dhabi, in partnership with France and supported by the government of the United Arab Emirates, is a major cultural institution in the Arab world. It was founded as part of an intergovernmental agreement and is recognized for its ambition to bring together works of art and artifacts representative of world history and cultures. • Louvre Abu Dhabi's exhibitions and publications are carefully selected and validated by committees of international experts, which guarantees their reliability and relevance. • Like its Parisian counterpart, the Louvre Abu Dhabi is also involved in educational and academic projects, thus strengthening the credibility of its publications as reference sources for Wikipedia. Cultural and Academic Impact
  10. For the Louvre and the Louvre Abu Dhabi: • Their role in research: The two museums are at the heart of much academic research and are often cited in journals specializing in art history, archeology and anthropology. • Their international reach: They collaborate with other world-renowned institutions, thereby increasing the reliability and accuracy of the information they publish. • Their educational importance: These museums play a key role in artistic and cultural education through programs, traveling exhibitions, and educational publications. In summary, the Louvre and Louvre Abu Dhabi are major cultural institutions whose credibility is firmly established in the academic and artistic world.
  11. Reputation and Traceability : Their reliability is based on : • Their history: These publications generally have decades of experience in their field. • Their rigorous methodology: These sources use strict editorial approaches, fact-checking and transparent methodologies. • Their institutional recognition: Many academic, governmental institutions and private companies rely on these sources to obtain reliable information

Inspiringflow (talk) 13:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lex Podcast hosts

Your revert had me going and looking at other YT personalities, and I found a reference to Friedman interviewing Destiny using WP:YOUTUBE as a primary source, "In March 2024, he appeared on the Lex Fridman Podcast in a debate with Norman Finkelstein, historian Benny Morris, and political analyst Mouin Rabbani regarding the Israeli–Hamas conflict.". I realize WP:OTHERSTUFF is a thing, but I wanted to get your thoughts on that and whether or not this is something I should bring up in WP:BLP/N for broader discussion because, as we all know, Wikipedia is only consistent in its inconsistency. I generally feel that we should avoid using YT for what I would consider WP:OR in virtually all cases, but if you look at pages like Louis Rossman literally half the page would disappear if this were broadly construed. I attempted to OR banner that page once and Andrevan immediately reverted me, lol. I also wonder if this is something that should be brought up at WP:RS/N. I'm just really interested in your opinion here since you're a much more experienced editor than I am. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For me, it mostly comes down to the WEIGHT considerations. Is it necessary to say that Destiny was interviewed? If the only source is the interview itself, probably not. If something interesting/dramatic happened during/after the interview and someone else reported on it, then the video itself can supplement the secondary source. Rossman's article could definitely use more independent sources; the primary sources aren't necessarily bad but "he appeared in campaigns X, Y, and Z" should probably have other sources instead. For Fridman, the consensus is simplified to "we need secondary sources" but that is mainly because of the number of interviews; that requirement was the middle ground of determining which guests could/should be included (as oppose to pre-consensus where there were arguments about who was considered "more important" or "more interesting" to include).
I'm not sure what sort of question you're going to be asking at BLPN, but keep in mind these three scenarios here are rather different; one is a "how do we narrow this down", one is a PRIMARY sources issue, and the third is a question of weight and need for inclusion. I think the middle one, which comes into play for Rossman and other YouTubers like Vaush, already has a reasonable standing in existing policy and just needs the fanboys to back off long enough for neutral editors to make neutral edits to bring them more into proper alignment. Primefac (talk) 12:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historical elections case

Hey Primefac, not sure if you know about this yet but at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Historical elections/Proposed decision it looks like you've double-voted in proposed remedies 5.1, 6.1, and 7.1. DanCherek (talk) 18:06, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, not sure how I missed those. Primefac (talk) 18:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RevDel request

Hi. Any idea about this ES?102.173.223.161 (talk) 18:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page has been deleted. Primefac (talk) 18:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My article is not displayed on search engines

Good evening Primefac ,

How are you ? well I hope

I would like to tell you that my articleCercle d’études scientifiques Pierre Rayer — Wikipédia (wikipedia.org) does not appear on search engines, can you solve the problem for me please?

Inspiringflow (talk) 21:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Hello, Inspiringflow,
Wikipedia has no control over how Google or Bing! or other search engines display their search results. It could take days, weeks or months for a Wikipedia article to appear on a search engine results page. Liz 01:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]