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User Talk:Primefac

For background, see this AN report and this section of the LTA page, but in short BMN123 has been harassing Drmies by posting defamatory content about them to mainspace, sometimes its been rev-deleted and sometimes it hasn't, but since this diff included both a link to the source of defamation, and the accusations (under the added section "Responses against perceived Chinese interference on the English Wikipedia" 2nd to last paragraph), I believe that rev-deletion may be appropriate up until the diff it was removed by me, if for no other reason than to discourage their doing so since they sometimes have included to links to prior page versions in their on and off-wiki posts.

I'm a little busy, and this IP is shared so even talk page messages are no guarantee of getting my attention, but I will try to follow-up with this if requested and I am able.

At this time no direct source inclusions of the link exist anywhere in mainspace, but it may be worth checking some of their habitual targets to see if it has been placed elsewhere using url shorteners. Thanks for your consideration. 184.152.68.190 (talk) 04:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted, thanks. Primefac (talk) 11:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New message from Neveselbert

 You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:Acroterion § Talk:Jimmy Carter. Hi Primefac, would you mind chiming in here? Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 16:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Responded there. Primefac (talk) 11:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

blp=no

Hi Primefac. I'm just wondering why your bot removed |blp=no in this edit. Was this intentional, because it looks incorrect? It also landed the page in the maintenance category Category:Biography articles without living parameter — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was running AWB genfixes; if it's a concern I would raise it at WT:AWB. Primefac (talk) 11:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would think that was your reponsibility, now that an error has been flagged, but I will drop a note there also — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It somewhat depends on the error and why it happens. In this particular case I have not kept up-to-date with all of the various changes and preferences associated with the banner shell, so if something is wrong I am less likely to know what needs fixing other than stating "this was flagged as an error". Thank you for raising it at the tool's talk. Primefac (talk) 15:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robb Cobb typo in url

Hi Primefac. Are you able to help me, please? I just discovered that the article for Northland rugby player Rob Cobb has his name spelled as Robb Cobb. I think the misspelling of his first name is all due to a typo in one of the articles that was used as a source when the article was created. The correct spelling (I've triple checked) is obviously "Rob Cobb", with his first name having only one letter b. I have corrected the spelling errors in the article, but that still leaves the incorrect spelling in the url and the title of the article. Are you able to fix that? Thanks, Ruggalicious (talk) 23:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks. See WP:MOVE to sort this out next time (I'm actually rather surprised there was no Rob Cobb that existed before this). Primefac (talk) 11:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thanks for your help and also for the link to WP:MOVE! Ruggalicious (talk) 11:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In case you don't get revert notifs, just letting you know I reverted your addition of this to {{expand section}} and {{missing information}}. The issue is that {{if autoconfirmed}} uses {{main other||...}}, so the template outputs a null string on semi'd mainspace pages. I'm not sure if that check is actually needed in {{if autoconfirmed}}, or if it could just be removed, or whether some workaround should be used instead, but since that's the sort of thing that requires some level of discussion, I elected to revert in the meantime. Definitely no objection to being reverted once the issue is fixed though! -- Tamzin (they|xe) 01:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The template originally used {{if IP}}, which does not have that restriction, so I'll revert to that version since it does the same thing (just in the opposite order). Thanks for the note. Primefac (talk) 11:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Glad to get that sorted. :) If I'm reading my filtered contribs right, this is the second time in 11 years I've made a TPE revert, so I'm glad there was an easy fix. Thanks for making the template by the way! Oh by the way, while I'm here, the autoconfirmed-show/unconfirmed-show logic currently ignores the existence of the confirmed group. Should there be a MediaWiki:Group-confirmed.css that just special-cases that as synonymous with autoconfirmed? I can't think of any case where it'd make sense to treat the two differently. There's a similar question of whether admins should see extendedconfirmed-show, since I think in most cases where someone's using that class, they mean "anyone able to edit ECP'd pages". (Or maybe we should just stop pulling EC from admins, as the redundancy doesn't actually cause any trouble, and does lead to ex-admins who were sysopped after the implementation of EC not getting the right back if the desysopping 'crat forgets to regrant.) -- Tamzin (they|xe) 22:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The template definitely could use some tweaking to make it more one-size-fits-all, I basically threw it together fairly quickly as proof of concept and as a base model it works "well enough".
It might be reasonable to duplicate the classes for (auto)confirmed so they act the same; can't hurt to ask. The ECP one is also a bit weird, and I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere but it's always a bit odd to see "you are not extended confirmed" when I look at {{If extended confirmed}} or WP:EXCON. I don't think admins necessarily need to have ExCon but I do agree they should be "counted" as having it. Primefac (talk) 11:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you grade the article Prince George County Public Schools

hi @Primefac i ws wondering if you could please grade my artical thank you Paytonisboss (talk) 19:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paytonisboss, just from a very quick look, you should go through and check your spelling and grammar; for example, there are a lot of things that should be capitalised that are not. On a scale of 1 to 10 (with 10 being FA) I would say this is probably about a 6: a good start but there's some more work to do. Primefac (talk) 21:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok thank you ill go through and check grammer Paytonisboss (talk) 21:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
where can i go to get the grade though? Paytonisboss (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you're talking about content assessment, I wouldn't worry too much about that; just focus on writing a good article. If folks have feedback for you, they'll let you know. Primefac (talk) 21:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BS

The Original Barnstar
For awesome awesomeness above and beyond the call of awesomeness. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Primefac (talk) 19:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AFCH

Hello, someone with AFCH perms seems to have been indefinitely blocked for "supposed account sharing". ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 06:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, and... ? Primefac (talk) 09:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Transclusions of template:pp-full

Hi mister 'fac. If I'm not mistaken, historically, this template was used for pages that are/were WP:FULLY-edit-protected. However, currently, with this template being deprecated over time, I can still see this template being erroneously transcluded on pages which are protected @ a lower level. Since musikBot II couldn't seem to handle this case, can you fix the transclusions with the right protection template(s) corresponding to their protection level instead?197.244.115.127 (talk) 22:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

while it might be "technically" the wrong template, in reality it's just a redirect to {{protection padlock}}, so it does no harm to be "erroneously" placed. Primefac (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mean that. What I meant was the template being in use at pages like Public Ivy, , template:DYKSymbols2/doc, template:DYKSymbols2 and WP:Articles for deletion/VIBES FM Hamburg, all of which are protected at a lower level.197.244.115.127 (talk) 23:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Since pp full redirects to the padlock template, it automatically detects the protection level. For example, dispute having pp full, Public Ivy shows the semi padlock. Thus, it isn’t really necessary to fix it. GrayStorm 23:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Movement of Template:pp

Does wrappers in Module:Protection_banner/config need updating? Seems arguments aren't being forwarded properly as a result of parentOnly being falsy when called from the renamed page Closingbrackettalk 23:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore me, someone's just fixed it xD Closingbrackettalk 23:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear it. As much as I love modules making things easier, I sometimes forget that they are also sometimes very anal about their inputs. Primefac (talk) 23:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Heads up

As you seem to be the involved admin, just letting you know of an uncivil edit summary when removing the warning re: edit warring at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Voorts.

In the last few weeks the editor has previously been blocked multiple times for edit warring (see conversation ending here) and had another edit warring block upheld for personal attacks/disruptive editing. RachelTensions (talk) 19:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I am now no longer strictly uninvolved with the general situation, there is not much action I can take from an administrative standpoint. That being said, it does appear that what little good faith they have left with the community may be rapidly eroding. Primefac (talk) 19:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Their choices of venues in which to engage in edit wars is really puzzling... today it's at RfA, and last time it was actually at WP:AN3 itself which is extra bizarre. RachelTensions (talk) 19:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
shrugs Why people choose to do (or get upset about) things on Wikipedia is something I stopped worrying about a long time ago. Primefac (talk) 19:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User IronZombie moved it again. Please restore. I put a message on user's talk page. --Altenmann >talk 22:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. Primefac (talk) 13:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AWB access

Hi @Primefac: could you please revoke my AWB access? Regards, Aafi 17:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technically speaking, you haven't had AWB access since March when you got renamed, but I have removed your old name from the check page. Primefac (talk) 17:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Well honestly, I didn't check the JSON page to see if my username had been updated there, and only remembered that I had this access once granted, which has hardly been in-use for a considerable time. Thank you for your quick response. Regards, Aafi 17:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch Guyana

Hello! Is it possible for you to change the Surinamese Olympic participations in 1960, 1968 and 1972. Surinam was called Dutch Guyana at the time they were not called Suriname before 1975. Vietnam participated as South Vietnam from 1952 to 1972. 193.161.216.9 (talk) 14:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on Surinam (Dutch colony) it sounds like it was only unofficially known as Dutch Guiana. Similarly, our existing articles indicate that Vietnam was used during the early years. Primefac (talk) 16:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The original Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands (1954) named Surinam as a constituent country of the Kingdom. Also Dutch colonisation of the Guianas#Dutch Guiana or Suriname contests the request.The Banner talk 17:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]