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Overpopulation
Sadads, I think you are a bit overzealous with your edits, especially deletions. The link to the Global Footprint Network is directly relevant to human overpopulation, so please explain why you deleted the link. You are right that there are other organizations, and they should and will be added later too. So, instead of just deleting stuff, just add others, if think they should be treated equally. Thanks, Peteruetz (talk) 17:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Peteruetz: See also sections are not for a list of everything that could be possibly related to a topic (that is what categories are for) -- you should have a direct discussion of the topic in the article if it rises to the point of analysis. See MOS:SEEALSO -- but the general guidance is not to include everything that could possibly be include. For organizations like Global Footprint -- there should be direct discussion of the entity in the article or a new section on organizations supporting arguments about overpopulation. See also sections aren't just arbitrary dumping grounds of "kindof related" stuff, Sadads (talk) 17:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Besides, you have already worked on a list that is focused on these issues: List of population concern organizations, Sadads (talk) 19:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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Would you mind assessing this
I am having trouble with a user who is keen to close down active projects, and now is refusing to let me restore a project in an area I am actively working on. Would you mind assessing this situation. Thanks. — Epipelagic (talk) 05:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic Seriously, you started a discussion on my talk page but unwilling to continue it. Per WP:CANVASS, then you want to get other uninvolved editors to side with you. Jerm (talk) 05:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sadads is an admin who has edited articles belonging to the soil project in the last 30 days. I asked him to assess the situation. I have wasted enough time talking to you. It is not productive. — Epipelagic (talk) 05:48, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sadads, Epipelagic is now subject to an ANI case. Jerm (talk) 10:05, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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Plastic recycling
Hi, I actually proposed the re-write on the talk page about a week ago - as I am aware that changes of this sort can be contention - but I received no response to it. --Project Osprey (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey -- 5 days without notifying recent editors on a talk page just isn't enough time -- for example, I was mostly away from doing significant attention t enwiki for that period -- recommendation for the future: when rebuilding a page, do it in a series of small (i.e. section rebuilds) so its easier to read in the diff. I left some first feedback at: Talk:Plastic_recycling#Proposing_a_re-write. Sadads (talk) 12:52, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Realized I didn't @Project Osprey: -- I mostly have a lot of questions, but just can't read it in the diff right now -- neither visual or traditional diffs make sense to me in the way in which you added the overhaul. A section by section insertion of stuff, and some thinking about the questions I have there, would be helpful, Sadads (talk) 13:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've been working on the re-write for about a month. I found that waiting a full week once I was done was too much for my patience. At least I'm getting some feedback now! --Project Osprey (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Project Osprey Oh no worries, and I have totally been semi-absent on the topics (real life wore me out a couple weeks ago, and am just now recovering, still a little slow to work on some of this stuff, but I have a week off next week so I might be doing some more serious editing :P Sadads (talk) 23:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well it is supposed to be a hobby, even if it doesn't always feel that way. I am trying to make the changes gradually over a number of days so you're able to keep an eye on the process. I normally edit chemistry pages, which obviously have a limited audience but this is a lot more important to our readers to I'm determined to get it right. --Project Osprey (talk) 14:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Part of the challenge is that the community is also my job (https://meta.wikimedia.org/key/User:Astinson_(WMF)) so when I have work/real life stress, it really doesn't make sense for me to also volunteer :P
- I think most of the writing on the article seems right, and its super interesting to see more of the technical processes get fleshed out -- and I have next week off -- so I am going to wrap my head around how I can help. I am mostly a cultural studies and social science person -- doing a lot of climate communication in the last year or two -- but I am super aware how much a well researched body of science needs to sit under the stuff that also activates people's emotions/interests. Sadads (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have some sympathy. I'm a chemist who edits about chemistry, so my job is my hobby. If get fed-up with one I can find that I'm fed-up with both. We sounds like a good combination for this, as it's a technology rooted in cultural behaviours. I'm coming to the end of the tech sections so it's just the more social stuff now: history, lead, current statistics. I'll probably move a bit slower here. Do enjoy your break but if you want to read about some environmentalism there's a nice open-access review just out doi:10.1016/j.apenergy.2020.114848. --Project Osprey (talk) 13:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well it is supposed to be a hobby, even if it doesn't always feel that way. I am trying to make the changes gradually over a number of days so you're able to keep an eye on the process. I normally edit chemistry pages, which obviously have a limited audience but this is a lot more important to our readers to I'm determined to get it right. --Project Osprey (talk) 14:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Project Osprey Oh no worries, and I have totally been semi-absent on the topics (real life wore me out a couple weeks ago, and am just now recovering, still a little slow to work on some of this stuff, but I have a week off next week so I might be doing some more serious editing :P Sadads (talk) 23:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've been working on the re-write for about a month. I found that waiting a full week once I was done was too much for my patience. At least I'm getting some feedback now! --Project Osprey (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Realized I didn't @Project Osprey: -- I mostly have a lot of questions, but just can't read it in the diff right now -- neither visual or traditional diffs make sense to me in the way in which you added the overhaul. A section by section insertion of stuff, and some thinking about the questions I have there, would be helpful, Sadads (talk) 13:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
I think I'm largely done with this for now, unless there's any other work you think needs doing? I'm thinking of submitting it for copy editing, as I keep finding my own typos, but the page needs to be stable for that. Just checking. --Project Osprey (talk) 09:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Project Osprey I think its in a good place -- I am doing some careful reading as well for clarity -- but someone who doesn't have a connection to the topic is much more likely to catch these grammatical things. Sadads (talk) 20:13, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- It's certainly better than when we started. I've requested ce from the Guild of Copy Editors, although it'll probably take at least a week to move through the system. Thanks for all your help. --Project Osprey (talk) 22:44, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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Hello Alex, I would like to take time to appreciate your efforts during the past months, almost a year of your diplomatic supportive communication during most of Wiki events. I am happy to inform you that I finally joined a group of three active Wikimedians and we are starting our project soon. In hopes of collaborating in the future. You deserve the Barnstar of appreciation but I failed to find it. Tima93Lb (talk) 09:22, 18 June 2021 (UTC) |
- Thanks @Tima93Lb:! Happy to be a helper! Its always challenging to find the community in Wikipedia and it's so great to see you join it! Sadads (talk) 21:44, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
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lang=en in English articles?
Not important but just curious why we need "lang=en" for cites in English language articles? Chidgk1 (talk) 18:47, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Because that variable helps tools evaluate what kind of source it is -- i.e. archiving by internet archive, eventually converting the sources into structured data (i.e. shared citations or Wikidata citations). It never hurts to have too much metadata, even if its not presented on the page, Sadads (talk) 18:57, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
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South Willingham
Hi Sadads, you left a Lead too short note on the SW page. I've expanded and updated it. Have I done enough to earn its removal please? Regards Tim.
- Hi @TimF Cop York: -- that lead still needs expansion -- for an article of that length I would expect something closer to 2-3 substantial paragraphs. Remember the lead is supposed too summarize all the significant features of the article, and make sure that the reader confidently knows what to expect elsewhere in the article, Sadads (talk) 13:13, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you Message
Hi Alex, I just wanted to personally thank you for inviting us in being part of this year's WikiForHumanRights campaign. Also, the video you've sent has actually motivated the participants to stay with us. We appreciate it much. Anyway, here's the summary for the events we had here in Philippines. Daramlagon (talk) 13:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Daramlagon Ah brilliant! I am so glad that everything exceeded expectations. We think these topics will continue to have impact on the communities so looking forward to doing it again. In the future, I do the campaign as part of my professional capacity, so make sure to communication with my @Astinson (WMF) account :) Sadads (talk) 13:04, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Florida Power & Light citations
Hi, just a note when you updated the generation mix on the Florida Power & Light page (and thanks for that new info) you changed the citation from the 2016 Annual Report to another website. Unfortunately that annual report was cited elsewhere in page (see places where ref name="2017AR" is used), and those entries are now nonsensical. I planned to update with 2021 numbers anyway and will attempt to fix as I go. It's my fist Wikipedia edit in some years though, so feel free to jump back in with feedback. --Username5681 (talk) 17:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Username5681 Hi! I don't think I updated the generation mix -- you might be thinking of another editor. You did a good job on updating those pages however! Keep it up! If you do have more specific questions, I am happy to help, Sadads (talk) 13:00, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
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Some clarification
Hello Sadads,
I created a page Cheluchi Onyemelukwe per WP:COMMONNAME. I’ve not been as active as before due to electricity issues coupled up with doubled up work. I noticed that Bearcat created another page Cheluchi Onyemelukwe-Onuobia. I’m thinking of merging or redirecting. Either one, I’m good with it. Reading Beans 11:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans Seems @Bearcat already merged the pages! You should feel free reaching out to folks on edits like that -- it's semi-common for something like that to happen, Sadads (talk) 15:19, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's a good thing Reading Beans pinged me here, but I was wondering why they didn't just ask me about it directly instead of coming to you. What happened is that the Canadian coverage of her Giller nomination has consistently included the Onuobia part of her name, so I had no awareness that an article already existed at a title that excluded it. Bearcat (talk) 15:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for this. Bearcat, I’m sorry for not reaching out to you, I thought it Sadads would have responded quickly. Thank you all for resolving the issue. Reading Beans
17:15, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for this. Bearcat, I’m sorry for not reaching out to you, I thought it Sadads would have responded quickly. Thank you all for resolving the issue. Reading Beans
- Yeah, it's a good thing Reading Beans pinged me here, but I was wondering why they didn't just ask me about it directly instead of coming to you. What happened is that the Canadian coverage of her Giller nomination has consistently included the Onuobia part of her name, so I had no awareness that an article already existed at a title that excluded it. Bearcat (talk) 15:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Green revolution
Actually, I am aware of some of the problems with the Green Revolution, having talked extensively with disenchanted Peace Corps workers in India (1970-1972) where the Peace Corps was pushing a so-called high-yield rice that required chemical spraying in order to survive. --Bejnar (talk) 20:46, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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A little more help, please?
It’s still I Reading Beans. My account is been caught up in some blocked range of IP’s. Although it comes and go but today, it was just too much. I checked now and found out that I’m able to edit but this isn’t what I want. If there’s a way it can be exempted, please, it will nice. Also tagging @:Bearcat, since I’ve "talked" to you before. Reading Beans 16:01, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Bearcat, thank you so much for this kind help. I’ll let you know if this persist! Thank you so much! Reading Beans
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Smallholding in Rinne
Hi Sadads, I'm impressed by the enormous number of smallholder links you have inserted today alone. However, I reverted your insertion here because Rinne is a disambiguation page (see MOS:DABONE). The funny thing is, we had the same situation already around a year ago... Not a big deal and keep on your good work! --Cyfal (talk) 17:32, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Cyfal Oops, sorry -- usually I catch that -- I am usually screening for dab pages and citations as I go, but sometimes its breaks down, thanks! Sadads (talk) 17:53, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hello Campaigns Product Newsletter subscribers! We are excited to share our updates:
- Request for Feedback: We have shared our project principles, wireframes for the desktop version, and open questions for you about the team’s event registration project. See the latest status updates here.
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- Team update: We have hired our first team engineer, JCarvalho and our campaign organizing fellow, IBrazal. Newsletter updates will be done by IBrazal and she will be coordinating with you! We hope to have the rest of the engineering team onboard soon! For those of who missed the last Campaign Office Hour, you may watch the recording to know more about the Campaign Product Team.
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- We will also be attending Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021, which will be held virtually again this year on November 5-7, 2021. We will be presenting the registration tool on November 6 as part of our communication and sharing process.
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Addition of link to early warning system to articles on early warning radars
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Hi Sadads, I'm a student working on the Climate Communication article, and I have recently added my edits to the main space. I was wondering if you could help me incorporate and organize the existing article into my edits because there is some overlap. I'm a little at a loss of how to do it myself because I'm new to Wikipedia editing. I see that you're pretty experienced and pretty active on this article. Any advice you may have would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Upuslay (talk) 22:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Upuslay
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Climate communication - wrong citation?
Hi, in this diff last year on the Climate communication article you added a citation relating to "Segmentation of Signapore audiences into 3 segments", however the citation seems to be to a rat biology paper, do you have the correct one? Thanks Rjwilmsi 08:20, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ah good catch, weird, fixed I think -- there are several papers on folks working with that audience, Sadads (talk) 12:22, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
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Why is Joseph Kesselring's article categorized under "Opposition to World War II"?
You added this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Kesselring&diff=635240082&oldid=613723296 Nowhere in the article is it actually stated whether Kesselring or any of his works took any stance on WW2. Was there something in the article before that has been removed by now? 208.59.185.238 (talk) 03:28, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not sure, I was organizing an editathon on resitence to World War II at the time -- don't know how that article came up -- not finding any sources for it now, so happy to remove, Sadads (talk) 14:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge
Hi Sadads, I'd like to let you know that I have boldly added Climate change in Kenya to Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge attached to your name. Please let me know if you'd like it to be removed, or add other articles you have worked on that may be relevant! Best, CMD (talk) 05:40, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis Oh sure, if you look back through my significant edits you will find more: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?target=Sadads&namespace=0&tagfilter=&hideMinor=1&start=&end=&limit=100&title=Special%3AContributions -- for example Water sachet is a west African topic. I am open to any of my edits being added up there. Sadads (talk) 22:24, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Campaigns Product Update #3
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We are excited to share our updates:
- Proposal to create new namespaces: We have proposed to create two namespaces, which are “Event” and “Event talk.” This way, we can easily create an Event Center that pulls data from event pages. This Event Center may include tools to create event pages with registration support, a calendar of events, and event statistics, among other features. More importantly, the Event Center will highlight organizing as an essential part of the Wikimedia movement. Please give us feedback on Phabricator or Meta about our proposal to create two new namespaces.
- Engineering updates: We are excited that we have finished hiring for our engineering team! Three engineers and an engineering manager have joined our team since our last update. In the last few months, they have conducted technical planning and launched the building phase of the project. They are now building the registration tool. You can see the updated team on meta.
- Design updates: We conducted usability tests with a small group of testers for early feedback on the desktop wireframes. After collecting this feedback, we have developed a new version for desktop wireframes, which will be ready to share in the next few weeks. These desktop wireframes display the user flow of two experiences: one for organizers who want to add registration to their event pages, and another for participants who want to register for an event. Additionally, the design team is also currently working on the first version of mobile wireframes, which will be shared during the next office hour.
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- Ambassador updates: Three product ambassadors for the Arabic, French and Swahili communities have now joined our team! They will help us collect feedback from Wikimedia communities about the project and understand the needs of organizers, through gathering first-hand information. These ambassadors are immersed as actual members of these communities, so they will also help us identify the needs of the organizers in our pilot communities. The ambassadors are: M. Bachounda for Arabic communities, Georges Fodouop for French communities, and Antoni Mtavangu for Swahili communities.
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Campaign Product Team Office Hour - March 31, 2022
Hello Campaign Product Newsletter subscribers!
The Campaign Product Team will be hosting the next office hour to share exciting updates on the Registration Tool and new proposed namespaces for events. We will also be sharing community updates on the usability tests and design highlights of the latest mobile and desktop wireframes.
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A little help, maybe?
Hello Sadads, I’m trying to create Zimbabwean literature with a draft here already. But, I am finding it really hard to do. There are already plenty of sources online but, I don’t get seem to actually know how to interpret them into an encyclopedic tone. Do you mind helping me out with it? PS: Is this page Third Generation of Nigerian Writers really good for a GA? READING BEANS 05:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Reading Beans-- well the Third Generation of Nigerian Writers article is at a good place to start -- however, I don't think its ready for GA -- I would expect much more content, and description of things like themes and how the "generation" developed and distinguished itself from other generations.
- As for Zimbabwean literature, I would look to other surveys of the field for example http://www.postcolonialweb.org/zimbabwe/zlitov.html or https://lithub.com/on-discovering-zimbabwean-literature-as-a-zimbabwean-writer/ -- summarizing the scope and arc of the development of a literary tradition in Zimbabwe. Consider for example reading literature surveys like this one and starting there. These summary articles are hard, because unlike a proper-noun topic (i.e. a specific novelist or novel) you need to have a mental model for the scope of the work in your head before you write otherwise it can sprawl. You also have a judgement call to make on how much you include the Rhodesian tradition, and colonial tradition before that.
- As for actually working on either of those: I don't write about Novels at the moment -- I am almost entirely focused on Wikipedia:WikiProject Climate change Sadads (talk) 06:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Alright, thank you for the input. I’d start with that. I noticed the change of area
nice job by the way READING BEANS 07:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Alright, thank you for the input. I’d start with that. I noticed the change of area
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Why did you revert[1] my addition[2] of {{Use dmy dates}} to Aimirgein mac Amalgado? BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:24, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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WikiProject Climate Change
Hi Sadads,
My name is Anda Bordieanu and I am currently writing my master thesis on the WikiProject Climate Change. I know this might be a long shot, but I would highly appreciate if you would spare a bit of your time to have a short interview with me. I already listened to the podcast "Wikipedia and Climate Misinformation" and I have some follow up questions on that! Please let me know what you decide!
Best regards Anda Bordieanu Anda Bordieanu (talk) 12:24, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Anda Bordieanu, I sent you an email, Sadads (talk) 12:44, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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- @Moreau1 I am rejecting your speedy please redirect to a correct concept then or take to discussion: its used widely on the wiki, Sadads (talk) 02:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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Hello Sadads. Some of the content you placed in quotation marks does not actually appear in the source article, and some you restored unaltered is actually present in the source. So I have removed it a second time. Sorry but I don't have time to perform a rewrite, but you are welcome to do so if you have the time and interest. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate button to view the overlap. — Diannaa (talk) 22:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Diannaa The overlaps are limited, and just a few words from the key findings -- you are punishing a new editor and putting a wall of text on their page, rather than incubating the newcomer as a participant. If you don't have the time, when encountering these more edge case examples, please skip them. The backlog is ever growing, and 50 or 60 words of unquoted text is well within fair use of US law, so COPYVIO doesn't justify the bad experience for the newcomer, Sadads (talk) 23:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry but I disagree, and have been doing copyright cleanup this way for many years. I don't think this is an "edge case" either, as there's more than 60 words copied directly from the source. Wikipedia's fair use rules don't allow us to copy material from copyright sources when there's a freely licensed alternative available. In this case the freely licensed material is prose that we write ourselves. Unattributed copying is not "fair use", it's plagiarism, because the editor is passing off someone else's work as their own. We need to make copyright rules very clear to new users right from the start, to build awareness of what our expectations are. While I do occasionally paraphrase the copyvio material myself, given the volume of copyvio reports that are filed each day and the amount of time it takes to assess and clean the articles and notify and/or discuss with the editors involved, it's not possible for me to perform re-writes in each instance. — Diannaa (talk) 23:13, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Sadads, could you please reverse your reversal of Diannaa's revision deletion? Restoring copyrighted content after it has been revision deleted is not really ok, please see Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Copyright_violations. I would reverse your action myself, but doing so would be wheel warring. Could you also please apologize to her? "
you are punishing a new editor and putting a wall of text on their page
" is falsely implying she is biting a newcomer when all she did was revert an edit and then give a detailed explanation as to why. There was no sort of incivility or unnecessary template spam. It is not our burden to rewrite and rephrase every bit of content that is copied into Wikipedia. "If you don't have the time, when encountering these more edge case examples, please skip them
" is disrespectful, given the thousands of hours Diannaa has spent cleaning up copyright issues over the years, and seems to be implying incompetence on her part. I've reworded the addition in the meantime, as it was still closely phrased to the source. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:07, 28 April 2022 (UTC)- Hello Sadads, it's been a few days since the incident and my above post, and you haven't responded or done anything. Per WP:ADMINACCT, could you please respond? If you do not, I am considering taking this to the administrators noticeboard. Thank you, Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's really in your best interest to respond, could you at least say something? Even if it's disagreement with me? Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 18:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- I too would like to see more explanation from you as to the reason for your actions. Perhaps you don't realize it, but both your reversions of my copyright cleanup efforts and your explanations for the reasons why you did so are out of step with the way we are currently handling violations of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Your remarks here seem to imply that attracting new editors is more important than enforcing our copyright policy, a Wikipedia policy with legal considerations. I certainly don't think that allowing new editors to violate our copyright policy is a good idea, as it gives a very wrong impression of the professional level of conduct expected of our participants. And I certainly don't agree that 60-some words of copyvio is no big deal.Moneytrees and I are both requesting per WP:ADMINACCT that you please respond now to our critiques of your actions. Thank you,— Diannaa (talk) 20:42, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Diannaa and @Moneytrees -- apologies its been a crazy week at work and at home. The user added the content in good faith with close paraphrasing, and we revised it correctly -- and without the edit history, it was impossible for subsequent editors to revise the content, including the review of the bot report pointed to by Diana. The second revision by @Moneytrees of the close paraphrasing wasn't copied content according to the both report (from the abstract or the article, so I am not sure why you thought it was close paraphrasing), and less than half of the edit was a misattributed quote, which I sufficiently identified as quotation in a way consistent with US fair use.
- Instead of doing the straightforward thing: putting quotations on the quoted content, you did the more aggressive and assumption of bad faith action: removing and erasing the contribution. Educating the user is a good idea, but doesn't actually advance Wikipedia open knowledge goal.Sadads (talk) 17:10, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Sadads, it's been a few days since the incident and my above post, and you haven't responded or done anything. Per WP:ADMINACCT, could you please respond? If you do not, I am considering taking this to the administrators noticeboard. Thank you, Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for responding, even though you are not agreeing with me. While the overlap was smaller with the second rewrite, my rewrite was justified as there were still issues. Quotations couldn't have been put around the text to fix the issue. To make things clearer, I am going to show the copied bits from the source, the text of the initial edit, and the second rewrite before I rephrased it. I have bolded the similarities and underlined the inconsistencies between what the cited source says and the "quoted" bits:
The source:
"A popular belief in the political science and political economy literature is that oil rents are associated with corruption and state instability. [...] We support our argument documenting that there is a significant effect of oil rents on corruption in countries with a high share of state participation in oil production[...] We find that an increase in oil rents significantly increases corruption, significantly deteriorates political rights while at the same time leading to a significant improvement in civil liberties. We argue that these findings can be explained by the political elite having an incentive to extend civil liberties but reduce political rights in the presence of oil windfalls to evade redistribution and conflict.
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What the user added:
"Popular opinion in political science and political economy literature dictates that oil rents are associated with corruption. There is an appreciable effect of oil rents on corruption in countries with a high share of state participation in oil production. A 2011 study found that an increase in oil rents significantly increases corruption and deteriorates political rights. Improvements in civil liberties are congruent with these changes, and was explained by researchers as political elites having an incentive to extend civil liberties while reducing political rights in the presence of oil windfalls to evade redistribution and conflict.
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The second rewrite:
"Popular opinion in political science and political economy literature dictates that oil rents are associated with corruption. There is an appreciable effect of oil rents on corruption in countries with a high share of state participation in oil production. A 2011 study found that "an increase in oil rents significantly increases corruption and deteriorates political rights". The researchers explained oil exploitation as giving political elites an incentive to "extend civil liberties while reducing political rights in the presence of oil windfalls to evade redistribution and conflict".
When doing my rewrite, I hadn't noticed that the quotes were still not the same, which I have now fixed. The initial edit is closer to an outright paste than close paraphrasing in my opinion, as the sentences are truncated and only a few words are switched out. It is close enough to the source that it would be reasonable to just remove the entire paragraph instead of attempting a rewrite. Diannaa and me are not assuming bad faith with our actions here; the vast majority of issues like this come from various reasonable misunderstandings of complicated copyright law and acknowledging this while working in the copyright area is required. However, just because someone is doing something wrong with good intentions doesn't mean they get a license to continue doing it; they need to be told that they are doing something incorrect in a measured way, which is what Diannaa did. It is not assuming bad faith to remove copyright violations, it would only be if Diannaa did something like immediately blocking the user or implying that they were copying the content for a malicious purpose. The issue with the edit could be seen then and can still be seen now at this Copyptrol report if you click "iThenticate report". Reports are generated on a per edit basis, and the bot does not catch every edit made, which is why further changes made to the article did not show up.
You tell Diannaa "you did the more aggressive and assumption of bad faith action
", but I believe that is actually what you have done. Diannaa didn't even revision delete the edit at first, so anyone could have gone back and reworded it before restoring without wholesale reverting her. You restored the copyvio by wholesale reverting her and then added quotation marks around part of the paragraph, with some of the now "quoted" text not actually appearing in the source. Diannaa again reverted this as a copyright violation and directed you to the report in her edit summary before revision deleting the copyright violation under RD1, which is standard practice. She also left the above note to further explain and avoid conflict. You then un-hid the copyright violations saying "not gross copyright violation
" and preceded to re-add the paragraph with minimal editing. The paragraph was still too close to the source, so I decided to just reword it to stop further conflict. I thought your actions were aggressive and essentially edit warring, with your reversal of Diannaa's revision deletion being very combative. Your actions here appear hasty- if you had taken more time to discuss the issue with her or read the copypatrol report and source after being provided with them and preceded to rewrite the content, this whole conflict could've been avoided. So, again, could you please reverse your reversal? Thank you. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:59, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Moneytrees Again, looks to me like someone who doesn't quite understand paraphrasing. The report only shows some poor paraphrasing of key phrases in the analysis, that are the findings by the author. I don't see where in the policy, if we have fixed the poor paraphrasing, especially if the edits are "redacting a revision would remove any contributor's attribution" per the policy -- which is the case here, they made no other edits to the page but did the intellectual work of bringing us the source. You and I have done several revisions to make it comply with our policy -- I think we are in a good place, in that the current text is fine and we have reached consensus on an acceptable text. Sadads (talk) 21:36, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Once again your response leads me to believe that you are out of touch with the way copyright cleanup as well as revision deletion are currently being done by the people who are actually doing the work. Those people are working primarily at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations, WP:CP, and at Copypatrol. I don't remember ever seeing you at any of those places, so I wonder where you got the impression that 60 words copied from a source document is borderline, something that we would typically let slide so as not to risk alarming a new user. I don't see it as a case of poor paraphrasing - it's a violation of our copyright policy according to the way it's currently being enforced by the people who are actually working this admin task. I saw (via the CopyPatrol interface) and cleaned up a violation of the copyright policy and placed a
{{uw-copyright-new}}
template on the user's talk page. This template is specifically designed for new users, so I am baffled as to why you repeatedly describe my actions as aggressive and bad faith.Regarding the question of revision deletion: The legal code states that all contributing authors must be credited. ("The credit required by this Section 4(c) may be implemented in any reasonable manner; provided, however, that in the case of a Adaptation or Collection, at a minimum such credit will appear, if a credit for all contributing authors of the Adaptation or Collection appears, then as part of these credits and in a manner at least as prominent as the credits for the other contributing authors.") It does not state that each sentence and phrase in the document must be credited to an individual author. Therefore, providing a list of contributors via the article history is adequate attribution, even if the edits themselves are no longer visible. So revision deletion can and should be done.— Diannaa (talk) 23:17, 6 May 2022 (UTC) - To address the "redacting a revision would remove any contributor's attribution" point: redacting a revision does not do that per long standing understanding and the WMF, and that passage is more referring to redacting the username instead of the actual text of the edit. Even then, the text had been completely removed when Diannaa did the revision deletion, and no other content was added in between, so there was nothing to attribute. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 00:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Once again your response leads me to believe that you are out of touch with the way copyright cleanup as well as revision deletion are currently being done by the people who are actually doing the work. Those people are working primarily at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations, WP:CP, and at Copypatrol. I don't remember ever seeing you at any of those places, so I wonder where you got the impression that 60 words copied from a source document is borderline, something that we would typically let slide so as not to risk alarming a new user. I don't see it as a case of poor paraphrasing - it's a violation of our copyright policy according to the way it's currently being enforced by the people who are actually working this admin task. I saw (via the CopyPatrol interface) and cleaned up a violation of the copyright policy and placed a
I took a break over the last week or so and have thought about this further. Of course I understand your point of view, that we need to be kind to new users who are adding content to the encyclopedia in good faith, but that does not allow them to copy text from their sources. Ignoring copyright violations from newer users just enables them to do it more and create more extensive problems. It doesn't fix any problems, it creates more. There is a post from me I would like you to read at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive336#We_cannot_sweep_copyright_issues_under_the_rug_any_longer, maybe you can understand my point of view and how difficult and time consuming it is to clean this stuff up. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:44, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022
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Umm ... something's been lost:
- "The novel continues Drabble's interest in exploring..."
- "... responding to Drabble's "curiosity" in continuing to explore the characters."
- "... the novel explores ..."
- "The novel continues the psychological and social exploration of ..."
- "... as furthering Drabble's attempts to explore the Virginia Woolf attempt's with realism to ..."
- "... describes the novel as a continuation of Thatcher's exploration of ..."
Thatcher? Really? Though, since so much is made of it elsewhere, it is strange that Margaret Thatcher is not linked.
BTW: that fifth quote has very awkward text... Shenme (talk) 01:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Shenme I did some tweaks, but haven't looked at the article in ages, wrote it 6 years ago -- and am not really a Drabble fan to begin with -- if something is not right, feel free to go back to the sources and fix it, the more important thing is that the sources are there and it's not wrong, just maybe not a clear summary, ~~~1 Sadads (talk) 15:46, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
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- Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
- Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.
- The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
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- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
Zenica
Please check this diff /arch., alt. arch./ (maybe compare with other revisions after edit wars) before speedily reverting seemingly weird contrib. Thanks. --5.43.77.122 (talk) 00:02, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Soil aeration
Greetings. Appreciate your notification on aeration. Currently, soil aeration redirects to permeability of soils. On review, before creating soil aeration from aeration, I would consider using soil gas for main-linking(?) to a soil-aeration-specific article. Regardless, most of the ways I imagine moving forward are easier once any unsourced soil-related content has been sourced or removed from the aeration article. Paleorthid (talk) 18:29, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't have a strong opinion @Paleorthid -- I was just going through and working on content, and know that it is a distinct topic, because of previous work I have done on agriculture, etc, Sadads (talk) 01:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
"Extreme heat" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Extreme heat and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 19#Extreme heat until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. BD2412 T 05:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022
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I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, Sadads
Thank you for creating Floods of 2021.
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partial block request
Could I please be partially blocked from editing Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones? I don't want to be able to edit there any longer and want to remove any possible temptation of editing those pages. Noah 20:55, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Hurricane Noah
Done I put it for a year, but if you want an extension or run into a problem and can't respond via talk page, please feel free also to email me. This is the first time I have done a partial block, so if you run into unexpected impacts please let me know -- I suspect it also blocks your participation in the corresponding Wikipedia space pages, Sadads (talk) 14:14, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Would you be able to lift the partial block? I just didn't want to edit there for a while after the case was closed considering everything that had happened. Noah 14:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Done I appreciate the restraint that you exhibited by asking for the block, and am happy to do it again @Hurricane Noah, Sadads (talk) 14:45, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Would you be able to lift the partial block? I just didn't want to edit there for a while after the case was closed considering everything that had happened. Noah 14:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 50
Books & Bytes
Issue 50, March – April 2022
- New library partner - SPIE
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Wale Fanu
I will like to personally appreciate your efforts in bringing back the above article. When it was deleted, I objected but I was not given any hearing. I cannot argue with administrators with years of experience so I kept quiet. I am more than happy to see the article back into space.
Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 18:42, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hey @Ibjaja055, When someone nominates something for speedy deletion you can review the template, and remove it -- for PROD or AFD, you would have to go through more of a discussion process. However, this article clearly never qualified for that criteria. Let me know if you run into something similar, Sadads (talk) 19:51, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I will be in touch if I have similar issues. Ibjaja055 (talk) 19:53, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022
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- An arbitration case regarding conduct in deletion-related editing has been opened.
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Thanks!
Hi User:Sadads , thank you for successfully reviewing my new page Kingsley Kwaku Pinkrah.
When you have time, kindly check and review these pages I worked on too:
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022
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The human right to a clean, healthy and sustainable environment
Hi Alex, you moved The human right to a clean, healthy and sustainable environment (title of the resolution) to HRC/RES/48/13 (code of the resolution as adopted by the HRC).
On Thursday the UNGA also adopted the resolution - under the same title, but a different code.
Would you agree that having a single article (under the title) with both codes would be the most concise and cohesive way to deal with this?
If so, would you mind if I move it back?
Relevant publication: https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/07/1123482
Best, Bquast (talk) 06:15, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bquast I am open to whichever naming makes sense -- the important thing to me is separating out Right to a healthy environment from the adopted right under whatever is the correct UN code/title, Sadads (talk) 09:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Sadads Ok, yes that makes sense. I think that should be possible with The human right to a clean, healthy and sustainable environment. Can I just move the page back from HRC/RES/48/13 over The human right to a clean, healthy and sustainable environment, or is there another way to best do this? Bquast (talk) 13:05, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 51
Books & Bytes
Issue 51, May – June 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).
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- An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
- An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.
- The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
- Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)
- The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.
- You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
- Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
- Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.
NPP Award for 2020
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Here is a barnstar to show appreciation for the NPP reviews you did back in 2020. We realize this is late, but NPP fell behind in some coordination activities. We are just getting caught up. If you don't want to receive "old" barnstars, please just ignore this and reply (with a ping) to let us know not to send you any more. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:11, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 Thanks for the award! I try to contribute where I can :) Patrolling is kindof a secondary I grab when I encounter it :D Sadads (talk) 14:30, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).
- A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
- An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.
- The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia has been released.
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- An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
- The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.
- The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
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please revert yourself
I am concerned that your affiliation with GLAM-wiki and your employment by WMF creates the appearance of a conflict of interest regarding 1Lib1Ref articles. I do not think you should substitute your own judgement for that of your fellow editors who remain independent of the 1Lib1Ref initiative. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:03, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Chris troutman
- First, I have not been involved in organizing the #1lib1ref campaign in over two years. Even if I was involved, this editor appears to have joined because of a sub-campaign run by another part of the community -- so its several steps removed at least -- claiming conflict of interest, several years later on a campaign I no longer run is extreme: what possible goal could I have that is inconsistent with the goals of the community?
- second, I didn't even realize that that article was created in #1lib1ref, but it appears to have been created by a new user in Africa. I regularly review content from newcomers as it comes up on my watchlist and other workflows: this happen to be a few links deep in one of those workflows.
- third, is there any substantive concern you had with the change I made? Clearly this articles meets GNG, and I explained the change in the edit summary -- I am open to discussion, but I am also a long-time editor of content on Wikipedia working on a workflow I regularly dip my toe into, including African content.
- I am confused by your comment, and the assumption of bad faith. Sadads (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation. I posit the subject fails GNG and NPOL and I think others agree. WMF's many failed machinations over the years have discredited it and I have a hard time ignoring that, even though you are a long-term established editor, a WMF employee approved a sub-standard draft related to a WMF outreach program which has performed poorly. To me, WMF is one big monolith and while my oversimplification is probably wrong, I thought you could understand how those of us on the other side of the fence might interpret your editing. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you think the organization is a monolith, but we aren't and indeed it is an oversimplification.
- As for the subject at hand, happy to disagree but: this is not a politician (so not NPOL), its a traditional ruler (equivalent to nobility in most places in Europe). Its as if we were saying that members of the house of lords are not notable in a country and context that serves many thousands more people. Additionally, the individual's coronation is covered in 4 major news sources for Nigeria, the equivalent of major new sources in European countries. I agree the style of the article isn't great, but there is nothing wrong with the content. We should be discussing that on the talk page, Sadads (talk) 22:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation. I posit the subject fails GNG and NPOL and I think others agree. WMF's many failed machinations over the years have discredited it and I have a hard time ignoring that, even though you are a long-term established editor, a WMF employee approved a sub-standard draft related to a WMF outreach program which has performed poorly. To me, WMF is one big monolith and while my oversimplification is probably wrong, I thought you could understand how those of us on the other side of the fence might interpret your editing. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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Avocado
I meant 10 litres of water per one avocado fruit ? Should it be written like that ? Georgeadelmoureed (talk) 10:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Georgeadelmoureed its 70+ litres per sources, it could be written as per kg or lb, Sadads (talk) 13:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Campaigns Product Update #4
Hello Campaigns Product Newsletter subscribers!
We are excited to share our updates:
- Event Registration v0
- We have successfully launched Event Registration tool V0 on beta cluster and collected feedback from the first batch of testers. This tool is part of a more comprehensive organizing solution, the Event Center, which hopes to support movement organizers. Through this registration solution, organizers can collect useful data on campaign participants and their needs while respecting participant privacy.
- Testing update. In our first round of feedback collection, testers were composed of different types of organizers around the movement with a language focus on Arabic, French, English, and Swahili communities. Most of the testers successfully created their test event registrations and signed up for a test event registration created by other organizers. Simple, easy to use, and aids in managing event participants were the common feedback we received from first-time users. In contrast, access and proper localization of the tool were the points for improvement identified. We are working on V1, which will include communication support and integration with the Programs and Event Dashboard. This will be released on Meta-Wiki soon. We hope to address accessibility during this launch and improve localization problems once the tool has been deployed in local wikiprojects.
- The tool is still available for testing on the beta cluster. Feel free to leave feedback on our project talk page or this form.
- Organizer LabLooking for a way to learn how to effectively organize around sustainability? Join the beta version of the Organizer Lab on WikiLearn to understand how to effectively organize a global campaign around sustainability and climate change! Applications are open from September 22 - October 19, 2022. The Organizer Lab will be a 9-week online learning experience from the end of October until mid December that prepares participants to obtain knowledge about the topics that they wish to create, a call to action for strategic knowledge gaps, as well as more generalized Wikimedia organizing and campaign/event design skills.
What's Next:
- Organizer Lab Information Session. We invite you to join our information session for the Organizer Lab on September 30, 2022 at 14:00 UTC via Zoom. Join this session!
- Organizer User Rights. We are reaching out to a pool of administrators from Arabic, French and Swahili communities to collect feedback on what is the best way to define organizer user rights, what privileges to give to community organizers, and what are the limitations of these privileges. Feel free to reach out to our product ambassadors or send an email to ibrazal-ctr@wikimedia.org if you are interested to be part of these conversations.
Community Feedback:
- French Organizer
“I think that the platform will facilitate the process of promoting events and searching for participants”
- Arabic Organizer
Thank you!
The Campaigns Product Team
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022
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Books & Bytes – Issue 52
Books & Bytes
Issue 52, July – August 2022
- New instant-access collections:
- SpringerLink and Springer Nature
- Project MUSE
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).
- Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
- Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
- Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.
- The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to Preferences → Gadgets and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.
- Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
- A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
- The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.
- An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
- Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
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Your tag to Roddy Doyle
Hi, Have just seen your tag about lead being too short and am rather puzzled. It seems to me to be a decent summary and give an accessible overview. I have read the article carefully. I am reluctant to counter someone with your Wikipedia experience, but could you have another think about it. Thanks.Aineireland (talk) 23:40, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Aineireland an article of that length would typically have 2-3 paragraphs of content, per WP:LEAD. For example, the current article covers nothing about his biography in the lead. Moreover his work in multiple genres is not well covered. The whole article needs a quite bit more structure too of the critical analysis, Sadads (talk) 21:02, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).
- The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
- An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
- The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
- The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
- AmandaNP, Mz7 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections. Xaosflux and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
- The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
- You can add yourself to the centralised page listing time zones of administrators.
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022
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Books & Bytes – Issue 53
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Issue 53, September – October 2022
- New collections:
- Edward Elgar
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).
- Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
- The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
- An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.
- A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget. (T319449)
- Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
- The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
- The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
- The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
- A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.
- Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add
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The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022
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Happy holidays!
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Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, Alex!
The other day, I was having a conversation with someone about holiday cards and social media. It occurred to me that, in the years since I left Facebook, the site I use most to communicate with people I like isn't actually a social media site at all. If you're receiving this, it's pretty likely I've talked with you more recently than I have my distant relatives and college friends on FB, at very least, and we may have even collaborated on something useful. So here's a holiday "card", Wikipedia friend. :) Hope the next couple weeks bring some fun and/or rest. — Rhododendrites \\ 18:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- How wonderful! Thank you @Rhododendrites -- what a great strategy! Sadads (talk) 15:21, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
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@Onwa: Thank you! I hope you had a restful end of year as well! Sadads (talk) 15:22, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
- Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.
- Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
- The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
- The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.
- Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
- Tech tip: You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using bullseye which won the Newcomer award in the recent Coolest Tool Awards.
Nomination for deletion of Template:Zion covenant
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The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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Request for feedback
Hello Sadads, I am experimenting with an infobox extension to summarise local impacts of mines and similar infrastructure. I've noticed that you seem appreciative of some of my expansions of these articles to include local impacts. Perhaps you are aware that for certain projects, journal literature and news coverage is heavily weighted toward local impacts and conflicts resulting from those impacts, so I think this information is occasionally warranted in the infobox. But I am receiving some pushback, and I would like your opinion. Could you please give me some feedback on a the infobox extension in my sandbox? You can see it applied to an example from Mirador mine in my test page here. Thank you. Larataguera (talk) 11:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I agree this tends to be a dominant topics, especially in the global south and would anticipate pushback -- in that there tends to be a bias against social impact for economics and technical topics among the kinds of people who create these articles. I think this would be a good move -- but it would require a discussion on the infobox template: I don't think it would be too radical of an extension, but we should probably have clear recommendations on how it should be used in the documentation. Having an sub-template, doesn't seem aligned with the general trend to reduce cascading templates with Lua more generally, Sadads (talk) 12:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Larataguera Realized I didn't ping -- I think the fields that you are proposing make a lot of sense to me, Sadads (talk) 12:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- And just responded to the WikiProject Mining Thread -- @Larataguera, Sadads (talk) 13:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I see your point about the sub-template making it harder with the visual editor. There are pros and cons. It might be good to keep it in a sub-template until we're sure which are the appropriate fields? I would have to incorporate it into several pages to be sure that I had covered the most important points. Just a thought, but didn't want to clutter the discussion with these details. Thanks for the prompt feedback!
- Larataguera (talk) 15:25, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Totally, part of the goal of WikiProject discussions is to have the full range of participants as well -- I wanted to make sure that concern was raised, so however we land, that was included in the discussion :) Sadads (talk) 20:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- And just responded to the WikiProject Mining Thread -- @Larataguera, Sadads (talk) 13:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Petroleum reference
Dear @Sadads, I see you have removed the quote I inserted. However, I think it was opportune as the source (SPE) is very reliable and the paper is interesting. I would invite you to follow the link I posted, in order to form an opinion. The work is written by leading experts in the field (there are also well-known textbook authors) and can provide the reader with useful information about the current state of the art on oil exploration technologies. Furthermore, this manuscript is readable by less experienced people, if they limit themselves to the introductory sections, as well as by more experienced readers (e.g. university students and professionals) who seek more detailed technical information. I think it should be included as a reference.
Let me know what you think. Thank you. Aftershock81 (talk) 12:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Aftershock81 if we allowed all papers that were relatively related to that topic to be in a further reading section -- the section would include thousands of articles -- I do see a distinguishing feature for why that should be in a Further reading.
- On the other hand, if the work contains information that is not included throughout the rest of the Wikipedia article, I invite you to summarize that new information and add it to the Wikipedia page. The removal is mostly a matter of keeping that lower part of the article from becoming an overwhelming pile of links, Sadads (talk) 23:32, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).
- Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
- Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.
- The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.
- The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
- In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.
- Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Voting in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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Water crisis
Regarding your edit to Water crisis - did you know that there is a DAB page at Water crisis (disambiguation)? Water crisis, redirecting to Water scarcity was the primary topic. If that's going to change, shouldn't there be a discussion about primary topic first? Leschnei (talk) 13:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- There was no hatnote pointing to Water crisis (disambiguation) in Water scarcity so it was impossible to see that -- the point of disambiguation pages is to handle reasonable conflicts in understanding about a topic. Other language Wikipedias have other topics -- happy to merge, but we shouldn't have a hidden disambiguation page like this -- especially when its easy to link to water crises in a meaning that is seperate that water scarcity, Sadads (talk) 19:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps it would be better to revert Water crisis back to a redirect and add the hatnote. Leschnei (talk) 23:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).
- Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
- Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
- A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.
- The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.
- Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
- The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
- A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.
- The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
- Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
- The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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I have sent you a note about a page you started
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Books & Bytes – Issue 55
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 55, January – February 2023
- New bundle partners:
- Newspapers.com
- Fold3
- 1Lib1Ref January report
- Spotlight: EDS SmartText Searching
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Precious anniversary
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- @Gerda Arendt Always a pleasure to see your name on my messages :) Sadads (talk) 13:51, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Climate Change in Somalia
Hello
Thanks for adding the WikiProject rating to Climate change in Somalia. However... I must say I am disturbed to read that this topic is of LOW importance within the WikiProject. Really ? I disagree with that statement. I have looked to several other countries and in most cases, it is considered high importance. And if I compare with articles listed as mid importance... I really think the Climate change topic is at least of similar importance to many of the topics listed here: Category:Mid-importance WikiProject Somalia articles. Dunno, but picking up just one... are Lafoole University or Mohamud Abdi Gaab really considered more important to the WikiProject Somalia than an entry about Climate change in Somalia ? No big deal in the end. But I really do not follow you on that one. Anthere (talk) 13:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Anthere sorry for not responding sooner -- the low-importance is default added by the WP:Rater tool, and I usually don't evaluate importance for secondary WikiProjects outside of WikiProject Climate change. I also tend not to put higher importance signals unless there are a lot of pageviews.Sadads (talk) 13:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for answering. Though it is vaguely perplexing to me to read that when you post evaluations, you actually do not evaluate as a person, but let a tool do a standard evaluation note (why putting any evaluation then ?). I would also have considered an article about Climate change to be directly relevant to the WikiProject Climate. Last, I am not sure why the pageviews on a newly created article would really be the factor that influence the "importance rate". On those 3 points, I disagree with you. But well, we will have to agree that we disagree then. It does not really matter ultimately. Anthere (talk) 18:30, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Extended confirmed protected Bluelock
Hello @Sadads Sulav K Shetri (talk) 10:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).
- A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.
- Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. (T178356)
- The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
- A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on Special:Contributions. This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.
- The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
- A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.
The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).
- A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.
- Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.
- The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.
- The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.
The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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Books & Bytes – Issue 56
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 56, March – April 2023
- New partner:
- Perlego
- Library access tips and tricks
- Spotlight: EveryBookItsReader
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"The Bright Side (album" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect The Bright Side (album has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 2 § The Bright Side (album until a consensus is reached. - CHAMPION 13:42, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).
- Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
- As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.
- Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.
- The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.
- Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to Jimbo Wales.
The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).
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- Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.
- Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.
- Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.
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Books & Bytes – Issue 57
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The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023
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Hi. The group is notable and I have heard them on public radio multiple times with Robert Spano. The article had no refs. I found a bunch of stuff and added it to the talk page (I'm traveling and didn't have time to properly add them to the article). I knew you'd want to know these were found.
I went ahead and removed the PROD tag.
Regards, --A. B. 03:21, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- @A. B. -- I will take the article to AFD after a week or two -- because I can not find anything but passing mentions in the news and descriptions of their social media and performance calendar -- this is part of being a performance organization-- doesn't mean its notable (i.e. lasting public importance). I once was part of a choir that performed with several touring musicians -- but that wouldn't make it of lasting, public importance, Sadads (talk) 11:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Ok.
- --A. B. 11:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- P.S., I think the subject is notable but it's not open-and-shut. AfD will open this up to additional opinions - good thing.
- Thanks for caring about our article!
- --A. B. 12:07, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- @A. B. I agree, its less that I want to delete the article, and its more that it seems hard to maintain with lasting relevance, and the sources are not exactly... helpful. One strategy could be to roll it up into a larger article about parent or related organizations, Sadads (talk) 12:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
Coastal Erosion -- Tracking...
Hi. Was reviewing the Coastal Erosion page, and under the Trakcing section, there are a few references cited. The newest reference (Almar et al., 2023) uses a method that has been called into quetsion by about two dozen of the world's top coastal scientists. Details on this can be found at https://doi.org/10.31223/X5W66T
It would be much better to cite well used and verified techniques such as the DEA Coastlines, which comes with methods, code and an interactive viewer (https://www.dea.ga.gov.au/products/dea-coastlines), or the work of Vos et al. (2023; https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-022-01117-8).
I apologize, but I am not a Wikipedia author, so I do not know how to make these changes to the page. Any help would be great! Thank you. 130.118.62.177 (talk) 23:03, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the update, I have added the citations as you requested. Since there was not a significant change in the written content, I have just added the citations. However, I am not an expert in the subject of coastal erosion, and don't have the time/energy right now to work out the nuance for that section. You can rewrite the section with the citations if you want. If you would like to learn more about adding citations and paragraphs, I recommend trying to edit directly yourself, Sadads (talk) 12:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
"Extractive industry" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Extractive industry has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 14 § Extractive industry until a consensus is reached. Eldomtom2 (talk) 19:57, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
Draft for Gulf Coast Center for Law & Policy
Alex, I was in touch with you earlier this year about some training that involved climate change articles. The tutor has asked me to try to make articles from some of the student drafts. There is a table at User:Charles Matthews/ARU 2023. Various issues come up.
For Draft:Gulf Coast Center for Law & Policy, I saw today (a) that Colette Pichon Battle was started by you, and (b) the GCCLP became Taproot Earth in 2022. So I'm wondering if the draft should be merged in Colette's article, and the GCCLP then become a section there. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:08, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think that is a good strategy @Charles Matthews -- her biography is not super highly used right now, and the content in the people section is better than the stub of a biography I wrote. Feel free to do the reworking, I am not editing a ton recently, but if I find a half hour in the next few weeks I can do that, Sadads (talk) 14:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's OK, I'm onto it. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:45, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023
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Issue 58, July – August 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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Alex, I hope all is well with you! I believe the last time I saw you in person was at the view from the chapel courtyard in Esino Lario! Anyway, I have just created a page for the Wikipedia:GLAM/Smithsonian Institution/2010 Wikipedia editing workshop, which I recall that you organized, and was wondering if you know who else was there, and if we have any pictures or media from the event. Cheers! BD2412 T 05:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
See also edits
Hi
Please don't remove my see also edits. It was quite difficult to find all relevant pages by topic with the sections in the state that they are.
Which is why I started editing them in the first place. Lau737 (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Lau737-- please find my note on your talk page: User_talk:Lau737.
- There are better ways to approach linking to articles than See Also sections: they are not well used by readers, and long, complex see also sections are not consistent with Wikipedia policy (see WP:See also). As a strategy for providing persistent, high impact links for readers: adding content to see also sections is not very good -- it is one of the first places that other editors will remove content, when cleaning up the page, Sadads (talk) 16:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
I've considered adding a navbox. Seems a little tricky and I don't want to do it wrong. I only have a few pages left, I'm going to finish them. I'll consider turning them into navboxes when I have a better handle on the process. Lau737 (talk) 12:32, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello again, I wouldn't mind some information about editing the following navboxes: https://en.wikipedia.org/key/Template:Psychology_sidebar, https://en.wikipedia.org/key/Template:Psychology for instance, which of these am I supposed to edit? I cannot edit anything other than concepts in the sidebar navbox. Lau737 (talk) 13:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for taking a couple days -- its been busy - @Lau737 You can edit both, but they have slightly different editorial priorities: you can learn more about the various advantages and disadvantages Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates#Navigation_templates -- remember, templates are not supposed to take over the role of Categories (organizing all the things), instead focus on the things that are relevant for navigation between the articles -- sidebars have far more visibility, but can't contain nearly as many links, were as Navboxes can contain more links, but is less visible. Sadads (talk) 20:24, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023
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See also section Growth Imperative
In regard to this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Growth_imperative&diff=1183320808&oldid=1183304666 what exactly do you mean? Would you prefer some of these appearing as see also / further template links underneath the headers or sub-headers? Or do you want me to add whole texts discussing the material? It's an interesting read, but also incredibly dense. I'd have to think hard about where I would link the pages. Lau737 (talk) 13:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Lau737 Those various links don't make sense to me without context: its much better to rewrite the WP:Lead for example, to describe the relationship between the concepts, than to have them randomly grouped in the See Also without much context, Sadads (talk) 23:17, 21 November 2023 (UTC).
Ok, I understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lau737 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 59
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Issue 59, September – October 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023
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- Thanks so much @Dr. Blofeld, its always wonderful to be reminded where my editing roots were :) I hope you are doing well! Sadads (talk) 19:22, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
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- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
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The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024
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Wilmette Wilbus article needs a talk page
Hello. I just used Move for the first time from my sandbox and need a bit of help or reassurance. I think I messed up by saying to move the talk page, which was silly, and the only other article I wrote in my sandbox seems to have the Talk page. I am not sure Wilmette Wilbus has a proper Talk page now. It is about a local bus system in suburban Chicago, started by the small village of Wilmette after the private bus company went bankrupt. It lasted 20 years before the regional bus agency took over the routes. My own connection was being a bus driver for a summer in that system, a half century ago. Anyway, any help or simple explanations you can offer are welcome. Talk pages are essential, even for for a defunct local bus service. Prairieplant (talk) 05:10, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Prairieplant You are all good on moving the page! User sandbox don't neccessarily have a talk page, and you can create one now after you moved it (simply click on the red link, and add whatever you want to add). The first content on a talk page is usually a 1.0 assessment for a WikiProject. I will add one :)Sadads (talk) 11:25, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Now I must deal with Speedy Deletion by someone. Always something to learn. Prairieplant (talk) 11:43, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 60
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Issue 60, November – December 2023
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
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- An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
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request for peer review
hi! i found you through the list of peer review volunteers, and i was wondering if you would have any broad suggestions for improving the book article (review request here). it's in a pretty bad state right now and i'm not personally deeply knowledgeable on books so i probably have large blind spots as to what's currently missing.
thanks, LarstonMarston (talk) 06:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 214, February 2024
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Greenpeace v. Eni
Hello! As you suggested me, I've created a sandbox draft for the Greenpeace v. Eni court case (that title is still unofficial, though...).
Feel free to make any kind of correction, if needed! Oltrepier (talk) 13:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good enough to me to publish @Oltrepier. You have enough non-specialist sources in there, that I think its good -- we will definitely have to make some tweaks as we work on it -- but I would start with that. Also, it might help in the long-run for attention to a few more English language sources as well just to help with evidence of broad public interest for English Wikipedia. I would ping the other two editors who responded in the Climate Litigation thread as you publish, Sadads (talk) 14:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Really? I thought we should wait for further developments to publish the article... I'm happy you've proved me wrong, then! : )
- Yes, I'll definitely try to look for some more English-language sources (I've actually found two or three of those as I'm writing), and they'll likely increase as the case goes on. Thank you so much for your feedback! Oltrepier (talk) 15:12, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yep! I think it will survive notability checks, and then other people can participate @Oltrepier -- I have seen much worse quality articles survive :) Sadads (talk) 17:51, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
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- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
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Books & Bytes – Issue 61
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Issue 61, January – February 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024
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Question
Sir I need more information about about Auwalu Abdullahi Rano article it didn't review Rano is a Nigerian public figure is a Nigerian businessman. Bamalli01 (talk) 16:58, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamalli01 I am confused what you are asking for: the article seems to have been published. Sadads (talk) 23:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sir I remove all the promotions in the article Auwalu Abdullahi Rano but if I searched it will not appear if there is any explanation I need it. Bamalli01 (talk) 12:23, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamalli01 there are several problems, I found some language that was clearly copy and pasted from another website (see Wikipedia:Copyright violations ), and the article has a lot of language and poor summary that suggests that the sources were promotional, not neutral. The article still needs work to be neutral, Sadads (talk) 17:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sir I remove all the promotions in the article Auwalu Abdullahi Rano but if I searched it will not appear if there is any explanation I need it. Bamalli01 (talk) 12:23, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Question
Sir the article Auwalu Abdullahi Rano reached Wikipedia notability but it didn't review for more than one month. Bamalli01 (talk) 13:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @Bamalli01: What you seem to be asking is that although the article was published it hasn't yet been patrolled and so it does not yet show up in search engine results, and you're more interested in SEO. Based upon this request and your editing history, it seems reasonable to deduce that you are an undeclared paid editor. You are legally obligated to disclose your apparent conflicts of interest. If you do so now, perhaps I'll spare you a public investigation which might lead to you being blocked from editing. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sir I didn't know Auwalu Abdullahi Rano but what I know he is a Nigerian oil mangoul bussinessman and public the article Auwalu Abdullahi Rano was not created by me. Bamalli01 (talk) 21:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt As always: a pleasure, and these years go by way, way too quickly! Thanks for being always present, and supportive! Sadads (talk) 12:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).
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- An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
- An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
- Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Rollback use
Hi there, would you mind explaining how Special:Diff/1216735321 is at all appropriate WP:ROLLBACKUSE? Uhai (talk) 18:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Uhai! Instead of addressing the vandalism on the page, you covered it up -- I probably should have used Undo -- but you should have done the work of fixing Wikidata, Sadads (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- There was no vandalism on the page, all I did was add the short description template that every article should have per Wikipedia:Short description. Not sure what Wikidata has to do with anything. Uhai (talk) 02:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Greenpeace v. Eni
On 3 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Greenpeace v. Eni, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Greenpeace v. Eni is the first climate change lawsuit filed against a privately owned company in Italy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Greenpeace v. Eni. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Greenpeace v. Eni), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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- Thanks @Hilst! I didn't do much, but thanks for including me in the group of editors that worked on it, Sadads (talk) 23:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
No problem! –
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Hello, Sadads. Thank you for your work on Iulia and Delia. HouseBlaster, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
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- @HouseBlaster I am very confused why you sent me this message, Sadads (talk) 19:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- My apologies. I thought you both patrolled the page and marked it for PROD. Please ignore this message. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 19:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster No worries, I deliberately added a claim to notability in the article because I originally thought I might prod it, but didn't, Sadads (talk) 17:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- My apologies. I thought you both patrolled the page and marked it for PROD. Please ignore this message. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 19:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Sadads:
Looking up how to contact someone at Wiki because the TALK feature on this article was disabled, I came upon the suggestion to contact a volunteer directly, which led me to a list where I saw that African literature is one of your areas of interest. My doing this came about because of a glaring error in the article on Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, i.e., the entire second sentence. Perhaps TALK was disabled because the article has gone for "peer review". I have enough trouble with Wikipedia instructions, lingo, etc. as it is without having something like this happen, so, although I imagine you are very much in demand, I decided to ask you for help.
So yes: the entire 2nd sentence of the article is completely wrong factually. Whoever wrote it clearly hasn't read either of the author's first two novels and has mixed them up, saying that Purple Hibiscus is about Nigeria's civil war, while saying nothing of substance about the masterpiece Half of a Yellow Sun. The latter book, the title of which refers to Biafra's flag, is of course the book about the civil war. I feel compelled to interject that I feel it is without a doubt one of the most memorable novels ever written in English, for many reasons which are beyond the scope of this communication. Purple Hibiscus, also a wonderful novel, is not about Biafra at all, but, among other things, involves a horrible story of child abuse by an oh so respectable father.
Therefore, I need to know how to point this out to whomever is editing the apparently closed-for-further-comments article, as no one else, as far as I can tell, has made any reference to this astonishing error. So I am asking you if you could please help me with this matter in whatever way you think best. As a volunteer you must have innumerable people asking you things like this all the time, but if you could nonetheless either personally or by passing this on help me with this matter, I would appreciate it immensely.
Many thanks,
Ruben Kaufman, Calgary,Canada Northern Flicker 19 (talk) 01:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi again, Sadads:
What with opening a new account and all, I forgot to sign this with tildes; so I am sending it again with that, hoping it does muck things up with confusion. Once more .....................
Looking up how to contact someone at Wiki because the TALK feature on this article was disabled, I came upon the suggestion to contact a volunteer directly, which led me to a list where I saw that African literature is one of your areas of interest. My doing this came about because of a glaring error in the article on Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, i.e., the entire second sentence. Perhaps TALK was disabled because the article has gone for "peer review". I have enough trouble with Wikipedia instructions, lingo, etc. as it is without having something like this happen, so, although I imagine you are very much in demand, I decided to ask you for help.
So yes: the entire 2nd sentence of the article is completely wrong factually. Whoever wrote it clearly hasn't read either of the author's first two novels and has mixed them up, saying that Purple Hibiscus is about Nigeria's civil war, while saying nothing of substance about the masterpiece Half of a Yellow Sun. The latter book, the title of which refers to Biafra's flag, is of course the book about the civil war. I feel compelled to interject that I feel it is without a doubt one of the most memorable novels ever written in English, for many reasons which are beyond the scope of this communication. Purple Hibiscus, also a wonderful novel, is not about Biafra at all, but, among other things, involves a horrible story of child abuse by an oh so respectable father.
Therefore, I need to know how to point this out to whomever is editing the apparently closed-for-further-comments article, as no one else, as far as I can tell, has made any reference to this astonishing error. So I am asking you if you could please help me with this matter in whatever way you think best. As a volunteer you must have innumerable people asking you things like this all the time, but if you could nonetheless either personally or by passing this on help me with this matter, I would appreciate it immensely.
Many thanks,
Ruben Kaufman, Calgary,CanadaNorthern Flicker 19 (talk) 03:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC) Well I have done that, but the tildes do not show up in my preview.
If it is okay, fine. If not, Wiki should have my email. Northern Flicker 19 (talk) 03:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment from a friendly page stalker: Northern Flicker 19 The talk page of the article is not disabled for me, nor is the ability to edit the article directly. I am coaching the editor who is at present preparing the article at peer review. In regard to your comment, the lede is typically the last thing evaluated, as it is a summary of the other material and we are at present making substantial changes in the structure of the article. When you say second sentence, I can only assume you mean the second sentence of this overview and not the body? Keep in mind that it is not required that the editor have read the books because WP articles must rely on what reliable sources say, not an editor's opinion. In this case, from the sources I have reviewed so far, Purple Hibiscus is indeed set in Biafra, but it is not the meticulous and expanded study focused on the war and its impact that is in Half of a Yellow Sun. Also, please note that this is not an article about the books, but rather a biography about her. Thus, it will only have a brief description of her body of works (in totality), how they were written, published, themes, and critical response. Expanded details on the books themselves don't belong here, but will be found in the articles of the books themselves. I have modified the first few sentences of the lede for now, but please recognize that the entire article will substantially change over the next few weeks. SusunW (talk) 05:40, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Susun W.,
- Thank you for your speedy reply, though I did find quite a bit of it offputting.
- I just reopened the article and hit TALK and I most certainly didn't get anything resembling a page I was expecting from past experience over a year ago when I had another account with now lost I.D. I just
- set up a new account and I completely do not understand what I was looking at when I opened TALK. There is no need to put me down for it.
- There was no obvious space to write anything.
- I actually find Wikipedia very alienating with its abstruse way of writing supposed instructions and its exclusive lingo. I don't know what the hell a "lede" is. I don't know if you're trying to help me or snow me. Excuse me but I only have a mere PhD, and I perhaps think like the lemurs I studied, though their minds should not at all be underestimated - and they wouldn't get any of this either.
- You wrote: "When you say second sentence I can only assume you mean the second sentence of this overview and not the body." I have no idea what overview you are referring to. I meant exactly what I said: the second sentence of Wikipedia's article on Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie,ok? https://en.wikipedia.org/key/Chimamanda_Ngozi_Adichie. The second sentence of that.
- Yes, Purple Hibiscus takes place in Biafra - but not at the time of the civil war, which I don't recall from over two years ago being mentioned in the book at all. It is certainly not what the book is about, nor is it its setting. Adichie is Igbo. She writes mainly about the Igbo. The Igbo live in Biafra. That's Igbo country. Nigeria is a colonial fiction and resulting nightmare, as is so common in colonized Africa. I already corrected that assertion that Purple Hibiscus was about the civil war. So yes, both books take place there. But if you look at my original comment again you should plainly see that whoever wrote that sentence was completely wrong. You could have someone who has read this article take out the book because they wanted the novel set in and against the war and find out in the end they'd read the wrong book. I don't think that sort of thing was Jimmy Wales' intention in creating Wikipedia.
- The editor may understandably not be expected to have read the books,
- but the writer should damn well know what s/he/they is/are talking about.Otherwise you are essentially saying Wiki is just a load of b.s. I am trying to help, just as you as a volunteer are doing. I'm pointing out a serious error. I don't care if it's an article about the author and not the books. That sentence is complete garbage and it's right at the beginning (less one sentence) of the article! That's terrible! A writer who doesn't know what they are talking about should not be in any kind of print.
- I was annoyed that this didn't apply to this writer, embarrassed for
- Wiki that that person messed up bad, and just wanted to help you all by pointing out the error. Yet you're going through all these contortions to cancel out virtually everything I've said in trying to point out a rather serious error in an article.
- Being responded to like this has made me feel that I want to think seriously about having any more involvement with Wikipedia.
- Dr. Ruben Kaufman, Calgary, Canada Northern Flicker 19 (talk) 11:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Northern Flicker 19 I apologize that my reply did not convey to you that I was trying to help. I am very confused by your expletive-filled response. Last night, I made changes to the lede in response to your first message. If those are inadequate, I honestly invite you to change it yourself. But, be aware that because the article is at present undergoing a massive rewrite, it is changing daily, and is quite unstable. The goal is to eventually shift the lede to focus on Adichie herself and away from descriptions of the works other than in the broadest general terms. I'll let you continue to speak with Sadads, and bow out now, as it is clear that we are not communicating well. SusunW (talk) 13:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- SusunW, thanks for that response. I won't say anything regarding the editor but will keep it as a good illustration of an editor who thinks Wikipedia is based on original researches. — Safari Scribe 19:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Safari Scribe I think the original poster had good intentions, as did I in trying to address the concerns expressed. Let's just assume good faith all around and keep working on the article. We've got a lot to do and I don't want the situation to escalate further, so we should just leave Sadads' page to Sadad. SusunW (talk) 19:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- I hardly think of what the hell, b.s. and damn as expletives. I guess we live in different worlds. As I said, I felt that you were dismissing everything I had said. I am not interested in editing which is why I tried to use the talk page. If it is possible, I would appreciate it very much
- if you could just erase my entire communication with Sadads and you from Wiki, or if you could tell me how to delete it myself. I am no longer interested in pursuing this head-banging matter. Northern Flicker 19 (talk) 06:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Northern Flicker 19 as someone who works a lot with networks that try to contribute to Wikipedia for the first time: this kind of reaction to our beaucracy is very common, and very human. However, it is also how we maintain some sense of quality control. As someone with a Doctorate, you have probably had similar experiences within Academia: it is very frustrating to have someone entering the space and attacking your whole field of work, with expletives, and then expect cooperation -- but you got cooperation, and help. I suggest that you try again to engage with us more -- your expertise could be helpful in the future. Sadads (talk) 20:13, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- What?! I wasn't out to attack anyone's "whole field of work." I was simply pointing out a significant error of fact in an article!
- The words you call expletives I've heard used by all kinds of respected people when they are justifiably annoyed or emotional.
- I will continue to refrain from using any genuine expletives here.
- You have to a considerable extent avoided directly addressing my actual questions or comments, such as what "lede" means (yeah, I looked it up: seems like a niche word) and have addressed my basic points obliquely, and I consider that to be dismissive. So why should I bother?
- I stand by everything I wrote; and in future, I will do my best to avoid getting involved with Wiki. Sadads, don't be overly impressed by the PhD bit: those in the know will tell you it really stands for "piled higher and deeper."
- You have all also been very discourteous in not having addressed my request to remove this entire "thread" from your website - but that fits right in with the overall pattern of your various replies. If
- for technical or other reasons you cannot, then so be it; but I really feel I at least deserve a reply to that. Northern Flicker 19 (talk) 13:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Northern Flicker 19 as someone who works a lot with networks that try to contribute to Wikipedia for the first time: this kind of reaction to our beaucracy is very common, and very human. However, it is also how we maintain some sense of quality control. As someone with a Doctorate, you have probably had similar experiences within Academia: it is very frustrating to have someone entering the space and attacking your whole field of work, with expletives, and then expect cooperation -- but you got cooperation, and help. I suggest that you try again to engage with us more -- your expertise could be helpful in the future. Sadads (talk) 20:13, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Safari Scribe I think the original poster had good intentions, as did I in trying to address the concerns expressed. Let's just assume good faith all around and keep working on the article. We've got a lot to do and I don't want the situation to escalate further, so we should just leave Sadads' page to Sadad. SusunW (talk) 19:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- SusunW, thanks for that response. I won't say anything regarding the editor but will keep it as a good illustration of an editor who thinks Wikipedia is based on original researches. — Safari Scribe 19:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Northern Flicker 19 I apologize that my reply did not convey to you that I was trying to help. I am very confused by your expletive-filled response. Last night, I made changes to the lede in response to your first message. If those are inadequate, I honestly invite you to change it yourself. But, be aware that because the article is at present undergoing a massive rewrite, it is changing daily, and is quite unstable. The goal is to eventually shift the lede to focus on Adichie herself and away from descriptions of the works other than in the broadest general terms. I'll let you continue to speak with Sadads, and bow out now, as it is clear that we are not communicating well. SusunW (talk) 13:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 62
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Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Emperor Shaka the Great, would you be interested in a wikiproject on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 13:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Kowal2701 I would be happy to help with the setup, but am not very committed to writing about literature at the moment. My main focus has been on Wikipedia:WikiProject Climate change and Wikipedia:WikiProject Agriculture. If you have enough critical mass, I can definitely help you assemble all the project pages, bots, etc. Sadads (talk) 17:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- That'd be great, thank you. I'm grappling with Template:WikiProject Anthropology at the moment, I've gotten it to sort of work, for instance on Talk:Oral tradition it says it's within the scope of the oral tradition taskforce, but it doesn't appear in Category:Oral tradition taskforce articles despite me copying the code from another template Kowal2701 (talk) 18:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 Seems to be working for me now, sometimes templates take a while to propagate things like categories to their transclusions. I will take a pass at populating some of the articles for the task force if that helps, Sadads (talk) 23:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 in my day job I am working on some research related to WikiProjects: I would love for you to answer questions here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/key/Campaigns/WikiProjects Sadads (talk) 00:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I’d be happy to, thank you Kowal2701 (talk) 06:12, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 Thanks so much Sadads (talk) 11:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 Thanks so much Sadads (talk) 11:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- What's the best way to go about tagging articles? Can WP:AWB be used for this? I make quite a lot of silly mistakes so I'm wary of using it Kowal2701 (talk) 14:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 Yes AWB + WP:Rater . However I tried building a list of in scope topics abd realized the category tree is really messy and includes a lot of content clearly not in scope as you describe. Could you point me to some categories, navigation templates or articles that model the range of topics you think should be in scope? Sadads (talk) 11:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- For example the category Category:Folklore has a wildly divergent set of subcat÷gories when compared to your scope, Sadads (talk) 11:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- That is a big issue with oral tradition articles on wikipedia, they aren't generally organised into categories and often don't even link to oral tradition as I've found do the first 100 via google. I was thinking it might be best to make a list of all articles that mention oral tradition or oral history using AWB and just put most as low importance, but it seems AWB only puts 1000 articles into a list at a time, and if you click it twice there's a good chance it does duplicates. Is there a way for it to list all the articles at once? Kowal2701 (talk) 12:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- So you could play around with WP:Petscan to see what kinds of sets you can create -- Petscan is better at giving you options about how to filter the stuff that "links to", and you could go through and look for other overlapping things. Sadads (talk) 23:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- The other option @Kowal2701 is that you could generate possible related articles with Listbuilding which uses interwiki information to see if topics are similar or connected. Sadads (talk) 23:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I’ll have a look, thank you for your help Kowal2701 (talk) 06:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- The other option @Kowal2701 is that you could generate possible related articles with Listbuilding which uses interwiki information to see if topics are similar or connected. Sadads (talk) 23:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- So you could play around with WP:Petscan to see what kinds of sets you can create -- Petscan is better at giving you options about how to filter the stuff that "links to", and you could go through and look for other overlapping things. Sadads (talk) 23:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 Yes AWB + WP:Rater . However I tried building a list of in scope topics abd realized the category tree is really messy and includes a lot of content clearly not in scope as you describe. Could you point me to some categories, navigation templates or articles that model the range of topics you think should be in scope? Sadads (talk) 11:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- I’d be happy to, thank you Kowal2701 (talk) 06:12, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 in my day job I am working on some research related to WikiProjects: I would love for you to answer questions here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/key/Campaigns/WikiProjects Sadads (talk) 00:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kowal2701 Seems to be working for me now, sometimes templates take a while to propagate things like categories to their transclusions. I will take a pass at populating some of the articles for the task force if that helps, Sadads (talk) 23:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- That'd be great, thank you. I'm grappling with Template:WikiProject Anthropology at the moment, I've gotten it to sort of work, for instance on Talk:Oral tradition it says it's within the scope of the oral tradition taskforce, but it doesn't appear in Category:Oral tradition taskforce articles despite me copying the code from another template Kowal2701 (talk) 18:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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