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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

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Information on the process

What may be nominated for deletion here:

Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, MOS: (in the unlikely event it ever contains a page that is not a redirect or one of the 6 disambiguation pages) and the various Talk: namespaces
Userboxes, regardless of the namespace
Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Before nominating a page for deletion

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace	If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with {{db-userreq}} or {{db-u1}} if it is a userpage, or {{db-author}} or {{db-g7}} if it is a draft. If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Duplications in draftspace?	Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See WP:SRE.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace	Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding `{{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~` to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}. Take care not to bite newcomers – sometimes using the {{subst:welcome}} or {{subst:welcomeg}} template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first. Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion. User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion. Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages	Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as {{historical}} or redirecting it somewhere. Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages	It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as {{WikiProject status\|inactive}}, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable. WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as {{historical}}; reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication. Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion	Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems. Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-g6\|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move}}. Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD	Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies

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Wikipedia:Userboxes – our guideline on userboxes

How to list pages for deletion

Shortcut

WP:MFDHOWTO

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

{{mfd|1={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}
for a second or subsequent nomination use {{mfdx|2nd}}

{{mfd|GroupName}}
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.

If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly transcluded page, use {{subst:mfd-inline}} so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.

Use {{subst:mfd-inline|GroupName}} for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transcluded pages.

Please include in the edit summary the phrase
Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
Save the page

II.

Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
Insert this text:

{{subst:mfd2| pg={{subst:#titleparts:{{subst:PAGENAME}}||2}}| text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.

Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
Please use an edit summary such as Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
Save the page.

III.

Add a line to MfD.

Follow this edit link and at the top of the list add a line:

{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}}
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".

Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
Save the page.
If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add

{{priorxfd|PageName}}
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.

If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add
{{subst:mfd notice|PageName}} ~~~~
to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as
Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructions

XFD backlog
V	Nov	Dec	Total
CfD	0	16	16
TfD	0	3	3
MfD	0	0	0
FfD	1	10	11
RfD	0	44	44
AfD	0	2	2

Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussions

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.

Current discussions

Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.

January 7, 2025

Template:User anti-American

Userboxes must not be inflammatory or substantially divisive, and this one is. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User anti-Israel

Userboxes must not be inflammatory or substantially divisive, and this one is. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:EMD GT42CU AC

Duplicate of Downer EDI Rail GT42CU AC

Regular IP editor with a very strange editing pattern and causing a lot of disruption for other editors to clean up.

This should be deleted, not just shuttled around the namespaces again to simply make more work for everyone. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:33, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:NOMAN ABBASS/sandbox

Promotional article, from an account that is continually adding spamlinks Andy Dingley (talk) 12:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The page is, purportedly, a guide to removing swimming pools, so to begin with it is not something that could become an article WP:NOTHOWTO. The "sources" fall into four categories: tangentially related, completely unrelated (such as Smith, J. (2020). "Cost Analysis of Above-Ground Pool Removal." Journal of Home Improvement. Retrieved from https://www.jstor.org/stable/1234567; there is no Journal of Home Improvement, and the link points at a response paper in Journal of Farm Economics from 1956), nonexistent (Smith, John. (2021). "Pool Maintenance and Removal." Springer Publishing. ISBN 123456789 – that John Smith appears to be quite an authority in the field...), and pools-now.com, which is the website the sandbox author is here to promote. Let's not assist them. --bonadea contributions talk 14:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the unfindable books (and lack of page numbers) were especially suspicious, but I hadn't had time to make a proper search for them. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. Wikipedia is not a guide and contributor appears to have a conflict of interest. --Escape Orbit 14:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Bonadea's careful analysis. DMacks (talk) 16:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as spam and as Wikipedia is not for how-to guides. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:EMD GT46C ACe

Duplicate of Downer EDI Rail GT46C ACe Andy Dingley (talk) 11:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Aurizon AL class

Duplicate of Australian National AL class Andy Dingley (talk) 11:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Redirect to Australian National AL class. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Why would we want a cross-namespace redirect as a persistent end result of any of this? Andy Dingley (talk) 17:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:EMD GT42CU ACe

Duplicate of Downer EDI Rail GT42CU ACe Andy Dingley (talk) 11:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a pointless copy. I don’t know why User:Liz draftified it. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I expect Liz draftified it because it looks very much like a valid article (having just been copied from one). But we don't need duplicates with (POV?) renames. Maybe what we really needed for all of these was a rename of the existing article to a better name. But that needs a proposal, sourcing and discussion before any action.

It's quite possible that EMD (a big maker of such things) is a better name prefix for these articles than their operator. But that's questionable and would need external material to back it up. I'd have definite opinions and sources if these were GB locos, but Australia is outside my knowledge. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Redirect to Downer EDI Rail GT42CU ACe. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:EMD GT42CU AC
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. The result of the discussion was: moved without redirect to draftspace by Explicit (talk · contribs), thereby deleting this page. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 15:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] Talk:EMD GT42CU AC Talk:EMD GT42CU AC (edit \| subject \| history \| links \| watch \| logs) – (View MfD) Wrong namespace. Duplicate of Downer EDI Rail GT42CU AC Regular IP editor with a very strange editing pattern and causing a lot of disruption for other editors to clean up. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:EMD GT42CU AC

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: moved without redirect to draftspace by Explicit (talk · contribs), thereby deleting this page. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 15:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:EMD GT42CU AC

Wrong namespace. Duplicate of Downer EDI Rail GT42CU AC

Regular IP editor with a very strange editing pattern and causing a lot of disruption for other editors to clean up. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

January 6, 2025

Portal:Genocide

Created in 2007, remained abandoned until 2018 when received few editions, but they have maintained the portal's obsolete structure. Statics subpages like Portal:Genocide/Selected article/1 and Portal:Genocide/Selected article/14 shows incorrect information. Not supported by any Wikiproject. Page views in the past 30 days, 747, against 51,354 views of main article. This portal is particularly problematic per WP:NPOV, does not make clear the criteria for displaying content relationships. Example, "Related portals" linking genocide to politics, religion or communism. Guilherme Burn (talk) 00:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Net negative for readers. Readers who get to the end of the Genocide article should not click on the link to Portal:Genocide but should read another article about genocide if they want to keep learning about this topic.—Alalch E. 01:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As an inferior content fork of Genocide for readers, and an inferior redundant page to Wikipedia:WikiProject Human rights for editors and potential editors, it is for all purposes a negative and should be culled. Nobody seems interested in the records of Wikipedia’s experiment of internet navigation by portals, an experiment that was already failed before the start of Wikipedia, eclipsed by internet search engines, so, delete without worrying about archiving. SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The nominator refers to an obsolete structure. They mean that the 30 selected articles (20 general articles and 10 biographies) are actually partial copies of the articles in mainspace. That means that they are content forks of the first paragraph of the article as it was in 2007. This approach is particularly dangerous with biographies, because in 17 years biographies of living persons may become biographies of dead persons without listing a date of death. Portals with this architecture should either be deleted or redesigned. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This portal was created in 2007 by an editor who has since edited sporadically, most recently in 2023, and has not maintained the portal. The portal has had drive-by maintenance between 2018 and 2021 by editors who like to do drive-by maintenance on portals, probably because they like portals, and maybe because they think that portals have some mystical value. The substantive value of portals has never been explained. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Grema Sulaiman Ahmad
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page. The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted per G7. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] Draft:Grema Sulaiman Ahmad Draft:Grema Sulaiman Ahmad (edit \| talk \| history \| links \| watch \| logs) – (View MfD) I dont have access of deleting this draft. i would appreciate if a more experienced editor can empty it from my space Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 22:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] @Cameremote: Try tagging it with `{{db-g7}}` to request it be deleted. MfD is unnecessary. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 23:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Grema Sulaiman Ahmad

The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted per G7. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 00:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Grema Sulaiman Ahmad

I dont have access of deleting this draft. i would appreciate if a more experienced editor can empty it from my space Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 22:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cameremote: Try tagging it with {{db-g7}} to request it be deleted. MfD is unnecessary. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 23:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Wiki/lede

~~Unused discussion page from 2009; single author. Tule-hog (talk) 20:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)~~[reply]

Delete. Serves no purpose and has no value. Gonnym (talk) 22:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't just delete It's supposed to be transcluded from Talk:Wiki/Archive 2#New version, but the subpage transclusion was broken when it was archived to that page. We might move it to Talk:Wiki/Archive 2/lede so the subpage transclusion works, or subst it into that archive before deleting it, or fix the archive page to transclude it from where it is now. Anomie ⚔ 00:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn: Good catch, I should have checked through the archives more thoroughly. I went ahead with moving to a subpage of the archive; maybe I'll come back to redirect-for-deletion the current page later. Tule-hog (talk) 03:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:HeyDuggeeOfficial2024/sandbox/The Olden Days

Unattributed copies of Fandom content at https://peppapig.fandom.com/key/The_Olden_Days (et al.) some with transcripts which are probably copyright violations. Instead of providing attribution which would be a necessity if keeping and removing the probable copyvio content, I find that it is better to simply delete these pages.—Alalch E. 20:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lots of reasons. I'd normally be OK with leaving these in a user sandbox, but as unattributed copies from another wiki they also have a copyright problem, as well as the obvious WP:SCOPE problem. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All as probable copyvio. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Wikipedia:WikiProject People

This is not a proper way to create a WikiProject. And also it is redundant to WikiProject Biography. Should we merge it? Vitaium (talk) 15:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftspace is self-cleaning (see WP:G13) so it isn't important to bring pages like these up for discussion.—Alalch E. 19:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete because we are here but draft space is self-cleaning. There is nothing here to merge. MFD is a content forum, but we should be ready to clean up more junk created by that IP range. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Wikipedia:WikiProject Roblox

Unlike the previously deleted WikiProject Roblox, this one is a draft version created by an IP. Sadly, many Roblox games, players and any other stuffs aren't notable enough to qualify as article and many of that sources for Roblox related topic are generally unreliable and the creator itself did not follow the guideline how to create a WikiProject. Vitaium (talk) 00:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete because we are here. This is a rejected draft, and could have been left alone for six months, but, as the nominator says, it is going nowhere, and is not a draft article, but a draft WikiProject, which is not the way WikiProjects come into being. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 4, 2025

Draft:Windows 12

This draft has been declined numerous times as per WP:CRYSTAL. We also have no idea what would be the name for the next Windows version and there is a chance that Microsoft would change its naming scheme so the name might not be Windows 12. I would also suggest to create protect this draft until it has been officially announced by Microsoft Vitaium (talk) 11:30, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per policy. Cretinous page, now four years in the making. SerialNumber54129 13:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. This draft has been declined many times because no information about Windows 12 has been officially released and the main space version of Windows 12 has been deleted multiple times. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 16:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
KeepBECAUSE DRAGONFLY IS A FUTURE TITAN PROBE AND WHY ARE YOU DELETING IT ITS THE SAME AS THE BEATLES UPCOMING EVENT AND YOU JUST DELETE IT. ಠ_ಠ Iamsteve69420 (talk) 02:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Iamsteve69420: Your reason is not reasonable and we are not deleting this draft, we are deciding whether the draft should be deleted or not. Vitaium (talk) 04:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't reply in all caps. That means you are shouting or screaming, and can be viewed as a bit childish. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry maybe im a bad lawyer Iamsteve69420 (talk) 19:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Troll blocked. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ - Rejected twice after 7 declines. This is a waste of the community's time in dealing with users who keep ignoring the need to get rid of this zombie page. ECP SALT so that an experienced editor can create either a draft or a redirect when there is news from Microsoft about the next version of Windows. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I noted in another MFD that drafts should only be nominated for deletion in extraordinary circumstances. Being rejected twice and declined 7 times is the sort of extraordinary circumstance that calls for deletion of drafts. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While this would never make it into mainspace right now, this is a product that is likely to be released in the future. I have it watchlisted so that when reliable sources start covering it more, I can watch as the article is expanded and possibly promote it to mainspace. As an example, here's a major tech website that released an article on this a couple weeks ago. What is needed here is for new editors to stop submitting this when it is in a state that will not pass. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The existence of this page is consistent with WP:DRAFTREASON #3. The purpose of drafts is satisfied and the contents are not so bad as to be categorically unfit for public viewing on the entire en.wikipedia.org website. But I get it, okay, I get it... Maybe block any tendentious resubmitters and implement some protection.—Alalch E. 19:09, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Striking Delete per Novem Linguae comment, and not replacing it with an opinion. If the draft is kept, it should be ECP Protected so that inexperienced editors cannot submit it for review. If it is submitted by experienced editors, they should know better and should be partially blocked. No longer saying Delete or Keep. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 3, 2025

User:Kenneth Palmestål/sandbox

Promotional draft written by the company's founder (see User:Kenneth Palmestål) whose mininimal edit history seems to be mostly about promoting his company. A google search shows no indication this company could meet WP:NCORP but not bad enough for WP:G11 or WP:U5, so bringing it here. RoySmith (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also this remind me of "This is sponsored by..." Videos on youtube Iamsteve69420 (talk) 18:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Almost G11. Almost U5. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep But does it have a wikipedia page? Iamsteve69420 (talk) 20:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, so if youre american, i think you work at night because in usa 01:58 Utc is night Iamsteve69420 (talk) 20:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why a sandbox text should be deleted, but ok. Kenneth Palmestål (talk) 15:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kenneth Palmestål: It is because it violates the policy that Wikipedia is not a webhost and also not an ad platform. Vitaium (talk) 16:09, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noooooooo please dont Iamsteve69420 (talk) 19:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How to delete this reply it was to Kenny not you sorry Iamsteve69420 (talk) 19:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Troll blocked. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. Vitaium (talk) 16:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 1, 2025

Wikipedia:WikiProject Islamic manuscripts

This was never a real project. One member (the creator) with only two edits days to the main page of the project and that's it. Zero talk page activity or anything else. Gonnym (talk) 08:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As the nominator says, there was never any collaboration involved in this supposed WikiProject. The work of a WikiProject is done on its talk page, but there has been no activity on the talk page. The originator is blocked, and so is unlikely to restart this supposed project. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete If someone wanted to start collaboration in this area then they'd do better to try and start a taskforce at WikiProject Islam.-- D'n'B-📞 -- 10:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 03:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Iamsteve69420 (talk) 03:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Above editor blocked indefinitely for disruption. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge as a task force in WikiProject Islam or merge with existing task force in that WikiProject. Vitaium (talk) 15:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete abortive Wikiproject that never really existed in the sense of a Wikiproject as a group and that is the only valid sense.—Alalch E. 19:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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